Free Handy Programs To Use Regularly

[SBTlauien]

Eclipse - A nice IDE with few bugs that works well for JAVA and C++

Burpe Suite - An easy to lean web application security testing program

Blender - An easy to learn 3D modeling program

[Lanny]

I used Eclipse for a little while. The vim emulator was really solid, the best I've seen in an IDE (I think it was actually running a vim subprocess on replaying buffer edits or something). That, however, is as much as I can say for it. I never got why people like a file browser bolted onto their editor when you only use it every now and then. CtrlP style navigation is nicer anyway and it doesn't take up a chunk of your screen 24/7. It takes ages for eclipse to start, I never found a look I really enjoyed. And I guess fundamentally with IDEs, I never got the appeal of incorporating the build process to your editor. Like the strong point of Java is supposed to be that it has all this great static analysis tooling, you shouldn't be rebuilding a project every 30 seconds so it shouldn't be a significant time saver. What's left? IDK, to each their own I guess.

Aaaannyway, one of my favorite pieces of software I have installed in the standard last.fm scrobbler. I know last.fm was kind of like a early highschool thing for a lot of people but I just opened an account a year or two ago and it's fun keeping an eye on your musical habits and the reccomendation engine is pretty good as that sort of thing goes. The normal client is just an attractive little piece of software though, aesthetically and in the sense that it's just dead simple and does a few things well.

[Tiffany]

The Linux kernel - needs no explanation.

[RustyShackleford]

I used Eclipse for a little while. The vim emulator was really solid, the best I've seen in an IDE (I think it was actually running a vim subprocess on replaying buffer edits or something). That, however, is as much as I can say for it. I never got why people like a file browser bolted onto their editor when you only use it every now and then. CtrlP style navigation is nicer anyway and it doesn't take up a chunk of your screen 24/7. It takes ages for eclipse to start, I never found a look I really enjoyed. And I guess fundamentally with IDEs, I never got the appeal of incorporating the build process to your editor. Like the strong point of Java is supposed to be that it has all this great static analysis tooling, you shouldn't be rebuilding a project every 30 seconds so it shouldn't be a significant time saver. What's left? IDK, to each their own I guess.

I don't like IDEs but the sublime text editor is awesome. I like having the file browser in the side, that plus tabs make it really easy to jump between files. And you can split the editor into rows or columns or a grid for viewing multiple files. The file browser and tabs hardly take up any space, I care more about vertical space.

I never really tried to learn vim or emacs so maybe I'd be singing a different tune.

[Lanny]

I used sublime for a long time and left it with a still favorable impression. The built in CtrlP file navigation was great, and I used the tabs/window-split a lot too. People make fun of the minimap over on the right and I think it's a little justified, I rarely used it, but I still think it was a nice piece of eyecandy and I'd install it if it existed for vim.

The thing that drove me away from sublime is the thing that drives me away from everything: the vim keybinds were crappy. You needed an extension to even get exmode and everything was subtly off. A lot of trickier op/movement combos would be off by a character relative to vim, some text objects were broken, and sublime never seemed to know what it was going to do at the end of a line. ActualVim looked promising but development seems to have stalled and it's not in a usable state as it stands.

[SBTlauien]

Good to see you posting Rustyshackleford.

[General Fault]

For installing and keeping most of that stuff up to date, use ninite.com . You check off the boxes for all the programs you want, and it downloads a customized installer script. The installer will include the most up to date version, fully clean, nothing extra (like browser extensions, search agents or any other bullshit). Every couple weeks, rerun the installer. Anything that's been updated will be downloaded and reinstalled.

[RustyShackleford]

Good to see you posting Rustyshackleford.

Thanks man, you too. I've contemplated not coming back or going elsewhere, but this is the best community. I always end up back here when I get sick of the other bullshit.

For installing and keeping most of that stuff up to date, use ninite.com . You check off the boxes for all the programs you want, and it downloads a customized installer script. The installer will include the most up to date version, fully clean, nothing extra (like browser extensions, search agents or any other bullshit). Every couple weeks, rerun the installer. Anything that's been updated will be downloaded and reinstalled.

No shit, that's cool. It's like the linux repositories for windows. It is imo one of the bigger problems with windows is the free for all way of installing and updating software. They should really get a universal software center. Apple already has one I think?

[Lanny]

No shit, that's cool. It's like the linux repositories for windows. It is imo one of the bigger problems with windows is the free for all way of installing and updating software. They should really get a universal software center. Apple already has one I think?

Apple has an app store but I don't think anyone really likes it because, well, it's a store and 90% of stuff either has to be bought or is a demo of something you need to buy. For dev tools and stuff there are two package managers, macports and homebrew, which are both nice proper package managers but they don't really interact with the "apps" world. Nowadays most things ship as .app files which is just a self contained directory structure with a manifest file for the OS. I actually kind of like it, installation is simple, uninstalling is clean, configs live in the app. It does complicate upgrading a bit and it loses the nice config/binary separation you see in linux, but for a consumer desktop OS I think it's a justifiable move.