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Better Living Through Chemistry / gamma-Hydroxybutyric acid
« on: September 18, 2014, 12:24:03 pm »
[suspicious] [hidden]         GHB

  GHB is "The Date Rape Drug." It has been known for it's very powerfull sexual
effects. I don't know much about GHB, so I don't have much to say about it. All I can say
is that some people love this drug, and totally live by it. Other's like to slip it into
girl's drinks at bars. Please use this drug properly, and not to rape some girl.



        GHB Manufacture #1
       

You will need:

Clean dry beakers and graduated cylinders, a set of chemical scales, narrow range pH strips
for 5.5-8.0, a hot plate, and (if you intend to make powder) two sealed tupperware containers,
a blender and a pyrex baking dish.

1) Accurately measure out gamma-butyrolactone (GBL) in the volume of milliliters (mls) you
want to react.

Example: You want to react 200 mls of GBL.

2) Multiply this number by the average density of GBL (1.124 gms/ml).

Example: (200 mls GBL) * (1.124 gms/ml) = 224.8 gms GBL

3) Divide this number by the average molecular weight of GBL (86.06 gms/mol).

Example: (224.8 gms GBL) / (86.06 gms/mol) = 2.612 mols of GBL

4) Multiply this number by the average molecular weight of NaOH (40.0 gms/mol)

Example: (2.612 mols) * (40.0) = 104.5 gms NaOH

5) Weigh out this much NaOH using a set of chemical scales.

6) Heat the GBL + 5% distilled water (by volume) to 100 degrees C

Example: 200 mls GBL + 20 mls distilled water heated to 100C

7) Completely dissolve the NaOH in distilled water at the rate of about 40 grams per 100 mls
of water.

Example: (104.5 gms NaOH) / (40) = 2.6125 * 100 mlw H2O = 260 mls water

8) *SLOWLY* drip (DO NOT POUR) 90% of the NaOH into the heated GBL and make sure that the
reaction is occurring (the solution will begin boiling vigorously). If the reaction is not
occuring, then you either have not heated the GBL to 100C or you have defective reactants
(throw them out and get fresh stuff). Once the solution begins boiling, you can turn the heat
off - the reaction will make its own heat.

9) Begin measuring the pH of the reaction solution with narrow range pH paper (5.0 - 8.0
paper). When the range begins to get to 7.5 to 8.0, stop dripping the NaOH solution. This
mixture will still have unreacted lactone in it - so now it is time to do some steam
distillation.

Steam Distillation (The purification step)

10) Put a thermometer in the solution capable of measuring 200C and crank the heat up on the
solution. You may want to add a boiling stone made from a clean piece of pea gravel to the
solution (don't use a boiling stick because you will burn it up, and don't use a chemical
boiling stone because they contain metals that are not supposed to go into humans).

11) When the solution gets up to 150-155C, cut the heat back enough to hold the temperature
steady at 150-155C. Hold it at that temperature until all bubbling stops. The beaker now
contains melted NaGHB.

12a) To make a liquid, add enough boiling water to make the dilution you want.

Example: You want 1 gram NaGHB per 5 ml of solution. 200 mls of GBL will make 329 grams
NaGHB. 329 * 5 ml = 1645 mls of solution. So add enough boiling water to bring the entire
solution up to 1650 mls.

12b) To make powder, pour out thin strips of the NaGHB melt into the pyrex casserole dish.
Return the melt to the low heat to keep it melted. Let the strips cool - they will begin to
curl up if the strips are about 1/2" to 1" in width. Scrape them up with a metal spatula and
put them into a sealed tupperware container. Pour out more strips and repeat the procedure
until you have used up all of the melt.

13) Let the strips in the tupperware container cool down and shake them around a bit (while
holding the lid tighly on). This will break up the strips.

14) Put the boken up NaGHB pieces into a blender (no more than 1/3 full) at high speed. You
may have to shake the blender around a bit to make sure everything is ground into powder.
Pour the powder into a sealed tupperware container.

15) You are done. Enjoy, and please don't do G and drive.




        GHB Manufacture #2


A Method for Making Powdered GHB (Gamma Hydroxybutyrate)

Never mix GHB with other substances - especially alcohol or other CNS depressants (like
sleeping pills).

Safety :
Wear gloves and safety glasses at all times. If any of the reagents or intermediates
contacts the skin, wash well with cold water.

For step 3, use electric oven only. In a gas oven, the pilot light may ignite alcohol fumes,
causing fire hazard.

Ingredients :
1. 60 grams of NaOH
2. 120 ml of gamma butyrolactone
3. 1000 ml of pure ethanol
These quantities are not fixed - use more or less as needed, but keep the proportions the
same. The NaOH can be dissolved in less ethanol, but these proportions make the process
easier and faster. The ethanol must be pure (no water in it) - don't use vodka. GHB will
not crystalize if there is water in the solution. Denatured ethanol can also be used, but
be sure to let it completely evaporate before ingesting it. Methanol can also be used, but
this is toxic, and excess must be removed before ingestion. If methanol is used, only 500ml
is required, but be sure all the methanol is evaporated before ingesting it (check there is
no methanol odor left).

Obtaining the ingredients:
NaOH, denatured ethanol and methanol are very easy to find. Just look up chemical products
in the yellow pages. Those chemicals are so common that you won't be asked what you are going
to do with it. Gamma-butyrolactone is difficult to find.

Equipment needed :
1. Screw cap bottle larger than 1000ml; if you choose plastic use HDPE, (it will be clearly
marked on the bottom)
2. Glass container at least 1200 ml. in volume.
3. Coffee filter papers (2)

Method :
1. Dissolve the NaOH in the ethanol - place the ethanol in the screw cap bottle and add the
NaOH. Shake and allow to stand until cool. Continue until all the NaOH has dissolved. Be sure
to release the cap frequently to release pressure.

2. When all the NaOH has dissolved (this can take an hour of shaking and waiting) pour it into
the glass pot and add the gamma-butyrolactone. A precipitate (this is the GHB) will form.
Allow to stand for an hour.

3. After allowing it to stand, filter the product through the 2 coffee filters (placed inside
each other), collecting the precipitate. Dry the precipitate by placing it in an oven on the
lowest setting for 24 hours. Use electric oven only! In a gas oven, the pilot light may ignite
alcohol fumes, causing fire hazard.

4. You can keep it in the powdered form (keep it in an airtight bag since it is hygroscopic
and will absorb water from the atmosphere). Alternatively dissolve it in 750 ml of water;
this will give a solution containing about 1g of GHB per teaspoon. Don't ingest the neat
solution in case there is unreacted NaOH which can burn the skin - mix it in 1/2 cup of water
of fruit juice. [/hidden] [/suspicious]

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News of the World / Re: If America loses electricity 9/10 americans will die
« on: September 18, 2014, 11:44:06 am »
If average net wage in USA is 461 dollars (like in my country) 100/10 americans will die

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Bad Ideas / Re: attempting to blind this guy with methanol isnt working.
« on: September 08, 2014, 03:16:55 pm »
Ethanol (the drinking alcohol) is an antidote for methanol poisoning. Basically, in the ethanol strips the methyl chain from the methanol, rendering it as simply ethanol.

FACEPALM

lern2chem
this is not a striptease club to strips something, but im glad to hear when you strips the methyl chain from the methanol in your mind what's remain?

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Bad Ideas / Re: attempting to blind this guy with methanol isnt working.
« on: September 07, 2014, 02:46:08 pm »
[suspicious]Methanol has a high toxicity in humans. If as little as 10 mL of pure methanol is ingested, for example, it can break down into formic acid, which can cause permanent blindness by destruction of the optic nerve, and 30 mL is potentially fatal, although the median lethal dose is typically 100 mL (3.4 fl oz) (i.e. 1–2 mL/kg body weight of pure methanol). Reference dose for methanol is 0.5 mg/kg/day. Toxic effects take hours to start, and effective antidotes can often prevent permanent damage. However, there are cases of methanol resistance, such as that of Mike Malloy, who was the victim of a failed murder attempt by methanol in the early 1930s.
Methanol is toxic by two mechanisms. First, methanol (whether it enters the body by ingestion, inhalation, or absorption through the skin) can be fatal due to its CNS depressant properties in the same manner as ethanol poisoning. Second, in a process of toxication, it is metabolized to formic acid (which is present as the formate ion) via formaldehyde in a process initiated by the enzyme alcohol dehydrogenase in the liver. Methanol is converted to formaldehyde via alcohol dehydrogenase (ADH) and formaldehyde is converted to formic acid (formate) via aldehyde dehydrogenase (ALDH). The conversion to formate via ALDH proceeds completely, with no detectable formaldehyde remaining. Formate is toxic because it inhibits mitochondrial cytochrome c oxidase, causing the symptoms of hypoxia at the cellular level, and also causing metabolic acidosis, among a variety of other metabolic disturbances.
Methanol poisoning can be treated with the antidotes ethanol or fomepizole. Both drugs act to reduce the action of alcohol dehydrogenase on methanol by means of competitive inhibition, so it is excreted by the kidneys rather than being transformed into toxic metabolites. Further treatment may include giving sodium bicarbonate for metabolic acidosis, and hemodialysis or hemodiafiltration can be used to remove methanol and formate from the blood. Folinic acid or folic acid is also administered to enhance the metabolism of formate.
The initial symptoms of methanol intoxication include central nervous system depression, headache, dizziness, nausea, lack of coordination, and confusion. Sufficiently large doses can cause unconsciousness and death. The initial symptoms of methanol exposure are usually less severe than the symptoms resulting from the ingestion of a similar quantity of ethanol. Once the initial symptoms have passed, a second set of symptoms arises, 10 to as many as 30 hours after the initial exposure to methanol, including blurring or complete loss of vision, acidosis and putaminal hemorrhages, an uncommon but serious complication. These symptoms result from the accumulation of toxic levels of formate in the blood, and may progress to death by respiratory failure. Physical examination may show tachypnea, and ophthalmologic examination may show dilated pupils with hyperemia of the optic disc and retinal edema. [/suspicious]

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Better Living Through Chemistry / Re: The perfect SnB RV
« on: August 26, 2014, 07:12:40 am »
I guess we need to have something like that in the perfect situation....


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NIMF / Re: RP/I RXN by inexcessof180mph
« on: August 09, 2014, 04:09:38 am »
you too

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Better Living Through Chemistry / hidden spoiler
« on: August 07, 2014, 04:17:31 am »
Spoiler

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Spoiler
and why spoilers are visible to guests?!?!?

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Backyard Ballistics / nitration
« on: August 03, 2014, 11:41:06 am »
toluene, nitric and sulfuric acids

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Better Living Through Chemistry / Re: Show your glassware
« on: July 07, 2014, 05:21:44 am »
I guess we need to have something like that in the perfect situation....

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Spoiler

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Half Baked / ala bala
« on: June 18, 2014, 04:59:45 am »
kavala

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Better Living Through Chemistry / Re: The perfect SnB RV
« on: May 26, 2014, 04:13:27 pm »
PE have medium resistance to non-polar solvent and good chemical resistantce to sodium hydroxide, PMMA is roughly the same, but i suggest borosilicate glass

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Better Living Through Chemistry / Re: The perfect SnB RV
« on: May 21, 2014, 11:05:31 am »
Fire extinguisher is good enough, when you change the basic manometer with precision one. The pressure more than 150 psi is unreached area to me, probably because the condensation take a place, beside depletion of free volume, but all is subjective... About the corosion, electroplating isnt good enough to cover the inner surface and also is fucking hard. Gas bottles is other options, but at all its need to be stainless!!!

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