Hey everyone, Just curious what people think about foreign campaign on ISIS.

There seems to be A LOT of mixed views on everything that's going on.

I'd appreciate it if someone could sum up the situation for me, as I probably have some info wrong due to the MANY sources with different stories.

In all honesty, I have no clue why we are continuing our air strikes. They really don't pose us any threat, the only reason they abducted and beheaded our citizens was IMO cuz we were interfering with business we don't belong in. I think the other nations are being smart to stay out of the situation.
In my opinion, why wouldn't ISIS take American hostages, we bash them with airstrikes and sell cheap arms to Iraq's military In the billions. If we minded our own business, our citizens would still be alive.
I've heard some sources say America depends on Iraq and syria for oil, but after a quick multi source google search I've read that Saudi Arabia remains the top supplier, followed by Canada and other closer nations.

So why are we fighting ISIS? Do we just want to keep allowing ISIS to steal weapons from the military, then reselling Iraq weapons to make up for the blown up stolen goods? I'm really curious, I don't see any other way how airstrikes are profitable. I've read the airstrikes they use cost millions. One source even said the campaign is costing around 7.5 million a day (yes I realize that isn't really A LOT, but still considerable with how long we've been involved, and it is most likes higher then the number they release.)

Again, I only have a loose view on the subject, would appreciate clarification.

So what have you found so far:
Whats ISIS's goal?
Do you think Obama's plan is justified?
Do you think this campaign is designed just for military profits?
Nearly all the weapons used by ISIS are American or Russian, how does that make you feel?
Should we withdrawal from the middle east, and just continue to sell arms?
Do you really think ISIS is threatening us?

and most important, is all my information correct?

The liberals would love to ban the confederate flag, calling it racist, opening the door to ban free speech. The only thing leftists hate more than the rebel flag is the constitution.

The only things liberals like more then a ban on the confederate flag are gay rights and losing their rights to their "perfect" government

Wassup guys. (Finally I make a post on here since zoklet pretty much died)

Anyways, I overheard, and gradually entered into a debate on the legality and philosophy associated with the Confederate flag.

The one woman (Puerto rican/white, 18-20 y/o, middle class) was arguing it was a symbol of racism and ignorance. She said the south often uses the excuse of "going against oppression" to avoid the backlash of looking like bigot racists.

The guy (Hispanic, prob same age, looked lower class but not ghetto lookin), He argued that the MODERN flag was a symbol of refusing oppression, and not a symbol of racism. He said that "If the government banned the flag, it would literally be enciting what the flag stands against, tyranny". He said that even foreign nation's civilians use the flag as a symbol of libertarian, free ideas (this probably needs to be checked if it true).

My belief is that I think the flag stands for exactly what the male said "freedom".
Now I am far from racist, I grew up poor my whole life (until later years of high school I moved to a more better side of town) when I see the flag it doesn't really bother me at all (I'm Slovakian and Croatian AKA white  )
I understand today, that neo Nazis, KKK,  and white supremacists use the flag sometimes as "their" symbol. But if someone uses the special Olympics flag for their anti-gay campaigns, does that mean all special Olympic athletes are against the gays?
LOL, I know that was a stupid analogy, but I did say this in the debate.

"If you take out the topic of slavery and say this:
The north (majority of the country) is pro vegetarian, and they believe it should be illegal for the consumption of animals. Now lets say the government has the same values as the majority and believe the south should shut down their meat plants and become all vegetarian. Should the south have to shut down all their meat plants AND change their beliefs because the government is forcing this new policy on them."

Yes I am not for slavery (personally), I do believe it is a good idea in some aspects though (economically). I can sympathize with the dominantly agricultural south who cant look for non slave workers because of the lack of immigrants to the south (all Europeans immigrate to the north).

The woman argued that all the south would have to do is just pay their slaves.

I said that if slaves were freed, most would move north (like they did initially), or they would start realizing they can argue for higher wages (based on the non availability of other workers).

She said she didn't think they would all leave.

To which I just ed


So what do you guys think?
Should government restrict the sale of confederate flags?
What is the modern meaning of Confederate flags to you?
Do you approve of California's ban on confederate flags?
How would you argue being for or against the flags old meaning?

make sure you get all your vitamins and minerals. it's not simply a matter of LOL I WONT EAT MEAT ANYMORE LOL HER DURR. You need to make sure you're eating a balanced diet.

Honestly if you replace meats with nuts there isn't really anything you have to supplement with.

Only things I ever supplement for are zinc and magnesium

Its supposed to be "A A B B A"
So what you got to say?
You did it wrong
Go smoke your bong
And try again some day

Lemme rephrase, Its very feminine

Jansport backpacks are mainstream and are the best

Also I bought a new backpack:

http://targus.com/US/16-bex-backpack-tsb781us

i got it with the salmon color
what do you think

That backpack screams homosexuality

Quote from: -SpectraL on September 01, 2014, 07:46:18 pm

The best style you can come up with is just to be yourself and ignore the mainstream faggits.

My style sucks tho

Just match or contrast with your skin color.

Or just follow a single color scheme.

If your black,I personally think dark purples or whites look good.

If your white, pretty much everything works, except dark purple .

For instance, a white polo, black undershirt, dark blue bootcut jeans (only wear bootcuts if your waist size is smaller then the inseam, If your waist is bigger then inseam, wear slim or straight), and then really tone it with some white shoes (white sperrys look nice, since its white I dont recommend athletic shoes), or tone it up with a white fitted cap.

If you really wanna stick out, go all white with some white jeans. I've only seen expensive brands like diesel and 7 for all mankind carry white bootcut jeans, but old navy has some $20 straight white jeans which are alright.
Bam, all white outfit, it really sticks out and looks NICE. try it out

Mix it up with different colors and different light/dark tones. I LOL'D when you lifted NIKE shirts to try and get "style".