After reading this thread I'm going to have to side with the fact that iam simply is. He can say he's not part of "any" dept. but I wouldn't stake my freedom on that. This militaristic country has yet to see the end of their rise of power unfortunately. It will get worse before getting better. Its my sincere hope that all whom have any sympathy for,or, empathy with any of the policing agencies goes down with their beloved force  just as hard, nasty, (and hopefully) bloody of a way. Simply for being blind eyed to what is really going on. No. We don't want the criminals running things.....oh -  that's right..... they already do. My bad. The way I was raised was simple. There's good guys. There's bad guys. If your raised with morality then you know right from wrong. You make a choice when your young. I choose the bad guys. There is more morality in the few I hang with than there is in the whole fuckin force in this town. Yes we do wrong. And when we do -we do it well. We break it (the law), they take it. Rules are simple. So, to cap; fuck em. All of em. Good guys are over rated. Just let em in close and see who gets the fuckin.

And I thought myself to be an idiot. U got me beat!

Fanglekai; apologies. You  caught me. Not all are men. Many are very childish and I'm sure there is a fat girl in there that likes to whine, snivel and eats everything she can get her hands on. When they speak of multiples an alarm goes off and a picture of me pops up .somewhere.

Arnox;
 Relative noob is being kind when speaking in regards to me. To far more than just these forums. I've taught myself about the computer because I got a phone. Still my only source of computing, for now anyways. It took me forever learning to navigate on the many pages of more that was totse2. I had multiple interests but always gravitated back to Li's. Probably because I found most on there so humorous. But, the likes of Heisenberg, sharlord puffington, even u.k. apache, got me hooked to the knowledge behind everything they said. I was only on page 131 when it all just went poof. I had read that far multiple times just trying to absorb.on one hand I felt inadequate, on the other, priveledged. Now I am left wanting. Wanting to know what I missed by not rushing through and reading it as fast as possible. I would like to read the rest of that story. While helping to weave the threads (pun intended) of time in creating this story. Hopefully we can get this ball a rollin and get people involved in more than just talking shit.

Makes sense about the leaving shit out just so they can be paid. What I was inquiring about was all the dialog that had transpired on totse2 before its demise. Information could be gleaned, or, just plain assed funny. The rants and obvious anger were hilarious. To top it off I was given a gift that pequed my curiosity. Information.

Mr. Meff , may i ask one thing of you? Any other suggesgions ? Help is always greatly appreciated.

Within the men that walk the cavernous realm of many splendor and horror that I call my mind, well, I just can't seem to recall being offered a place for us to just kick it and set down whatever is floating amongst the collective gray matter that I call my lbrain. I must say that I feel my views of unimportance after reading the quite slanderous but always informative threads on the old screaming electron. Some of them cats made me look sane! Thank you Arkane for your offer of free speech. Hence, I am still leary of saying anything. Far too many years under the thumb of 'the man' to allow those that are me to speak freely. They scare me. I can only imagine if I allowed open conversation with the general population. Let me ask you; have you ever heard the sound of a door being locked but all that stands before you is another being whoms  face is draining white with fear. No door. Just the emptiness that is their soul. Makes a person feel...,well, as though he is the ruler of the land. And all that pass within thine grasp had better know the fine art of kissing ass because as the grasp tightens and you feel the blood begin its trek in hopes to keep that body alive, well,with a sly smirk we flex the fi gets ever so slowly until the limp soul has nothing left to offer so casting it aside we are led back to the offer of just saying any ol' thing that comes to our mind...... we must offer our thanks, but, we think the shadows are a safer place for us. Me (well, obviously) and all of you simply because this little jaunt of a tale holds truths that should be kept close to the breast.

Is there no way to get the following dialog that went with Li's instructions? Although it went a little off topic at times-there was a lot of useful info within everyones contributions.