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Society => When SHTF => Topic started by: Darkhunter on September 02, 2014, 05:19:51 am
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Hello all in the SHTF forum. I have been putting aside some "preparations" in case anything happens down in the area of Florida I live in: hurricanes mostly. As such I've been trying to keep 2-3 weeks of items in the pantry.
Any recommendations outside of the following? It's my start of a prep but I know it can always improve:
2 5 gallon buckets of mylar packed individual servings Red beans and rice
24 packages of Starkist Tuna
10 boxes of Mac and Cheese
1 lb. of Dehydrated Milk
10 packages of 3 serving Idahoan instant potatoes
2 boxes of 24 Top Ramen Beef
2 5 lbs. containers of Peanut Butter
10 16 oz. containers of homemade Apple Jelly
As for water
10 1 gallon containers of water
6 24 packs of 16.9 oz. bottles of water
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so. um. how do you plan to cook that stuff? any flavoring/spices saved up?
make sure to rotate the water. the nasty chemicals leech out of the plastic bottles into the water
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I keep meaning to try and make pemmican at home but I always forget. That shit can store for years if one does it right.
I had a recipe somewhere for as close to 'real pemmican' as I could find, but I lost it. It used beef instead of bison or venison. I would post it here if I could, I guess I will have to look for a different one online or something.
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you can buy beef jerky. almost as long-lasting...plus good protein. not so healthy, but considering the environment that it would be needed in storage life trumps the diet
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This is off topic, but the concept of 'rabbit starvation' has always fascinated me. It is when one eats too much lean meat and does not get fat in their diet, and one ends up starving even with a belly full of meat.
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yea...the odds of that happening are something like nil to none. all someone would have to do is eat a miniscule amount of another food source
i read about someone that tried that rabbit-poisoning thing out and ate strictly rabbit meat for weeks and they were fine. its on some survivalist web site
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Theres also water in hot water heaters that one can drink in an emergency, I read somewhere; but I wouldn't know how to get it out...I guess I will have to learn, though, because my hot water heater needs replaced soon.
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theres a faucet at the bottom that is used to drain the sediment out. that.
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theres a faucet at the bottom that is used to drain the sediment out. that.
I fucking hate home repair, I don't even want to look at the damn thing. I will just wait until I either have to replace mine, or I have to get water desperately. I bet I'll figure it out real quick then.
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whats wrong with it?
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Its just old, it still works fine though. It will need replaced soon, it was here when I bought this place almost 3 years ago, and the house was built 18 years ago, and I am assuming it is the same water heater that was here when they first built the house.
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if it works fine theres no reason to replace it. does it leak? does it heat the water?
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if it works fine theres no reason to replace it. does it leak? does it heat the water?
No and yes
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where does it leak from?
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where does it leak from?
I meant, it doesn't leak, and it does heat water fine
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then it doesnt need to be replaced. if its not leaking and heats the water...thats all theyre expected to do
altho...you should clean the shit out of it. attach a hose to the faucet at the bottom of the water heater, bring the other end of the hose outside somewhere, then open the faucet to purge it. make sure you dont break the faucet...sometimes theyre made out of cheap-shit plastic. if its 18 years old it should be a decent metal one
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Thanks, that doesn't sound too hard....
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nope. and its good for it
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so. um. how do you plan to cook that stuff? any flavoring/spices saved up?
make sure to rotate the water. the nasty chemicals leech out of the plastic bottles into the water
Materials to be cooking it all wasn't listed as I don't leave my cooking materials in the pantry.
As for rotating the water: I live in Florida. I use at least 4 cases of those 24 packs of water every week or so just to myself. Rotation wont be a problem.
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Without power some sort of cooking source will be needed, and a fuel source to power it. Some things can be warmed in the hot Florida sun for free.
Thats a lot of water. Depending on where in fl u are you might want to look into a well. The water table in my yard is 5' down. There are places around here that are 3' down
Storing/using water in that way starts to become expensive. You might want to look into a filtration system or larger sized containers....gallon or a 5 gallon delivery
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Without power some sort of cooking source will be needed, and a fuel source to power it. Some things can be warmed in the hot Florida sun for free.
Thats a lot of water. Depending on where in fl u are you might want to look into a well. The water table in my yard is 5' down. There are places around here that are 3' down
Storing/using water in that way starts to become expensive. You might want to look into a filtration system or larger sized containers....gallon or a 5 gallon delivery
I have a home delivery set up for the bottled water. I just go to the market and fill up a large container at the front of the store and when I get home I fill up the smaller gallons for rotation.
As for the fire making/food prep: I have 11 different ways to cook/prepare meals.
Since I posted this thread I added a variety of homemade "just add water" canned food.
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Thanks, that doesn't sound too hard....
For the love of god make sure you turn it off first! Some of those heaters get hot as hell and I'd hate to see you melt your garden hose and burn the shit out of yourself.
Without power some sort of cooking source will be needed, and a fuel source to power it. Some things can be warmed in the hot Florida sun for free.
Thats a lot of water. Depending on where in fl u are you might want to look into a well. The water table in my yard is 5' down. There are places around here that are 3' down
Storing/using water in that way starts to become expensive. You might want to look into a filtration system or larger sized containers....gallon or a 5 gallon delivery
Look up a "solar oven". Think parked car in the hot summer sun magnified.
As for what I have for provisions I'm not 100% sure... I know I got a large barrel of dry pasta and another of dry rice then one more full of mixed beans and a shelf full of pasta sauce not including what I got in my freezer and cupboards.
If I can get everything finished before the snow flies I should also have a smoker built for making venison jerky and as for water I have a well with both a hand pump and an electric pump not including the three ponds out back.
I know on my land that there's edible mushrooms, fiddle heads, black berries, goose berries, strawberries, winter mint, asparagus, cat tails, and around nine apple trees not including the nut bearing trees.
Lots of hunting and fishing around these parts as well.
Al
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Without power some sort of cooking source will be needed, and a fuel source to power it. Some things can be warmed in the hot Florida sun for free.
Thats a lot of water. Depending on where in fl u are you might want to look into a well. The water table in my yard is 5' down. There are places around here that are 3' down
Storing/using water in that way starts to become expensive. You might want to look into a filtration system or larger sized containers....gallon or a 5 gallon delivery
I have a home delivery set up for the bottled water. I just go to the market and fill up a large container at the front of the store and when I get home I fill up the smaller gallons for rotation.
As for the fire making/food prep: I have 11 different ways to cook/prepare meals.
Since I posted this thread I added a variety of homemade "just add water" canned food.
Homemade beef jerky is way better and other meats and vegetables can be cured/dried this way. Also they can be reconstituted and used in meals.
Pro Tip: recently discovered bacon jerky!
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Without power some sort of cooking source will be needed, and a fuel source to power it. Some things can be warmed in the hot Florida sun for free.
Thats a lot of water. Depending on where in fl u are you might want to look into a well. The water table in my yard is 5' down. There are places around here that are 3' down
Storing/using water in that way starts to become expensive. You might want to look into a filtration system or larger sized containers....gallon or a 5 gallon delivery
I have a home delivery set up for the bottled water. I just go to the market and fill up a large container at the front of the store and when I get home I fill up the smaller gallons for rotation.
As for the fire making/food prep: I have 11 different ways to cook/prepare meals.
Since I posted this thread I added a variety of homemade "just add water" canned food.
Homemade beef jerky is way better and other meats and vegetables can be cured/dried this way. Also they can be reconstituted and used in meals.
Pro Tip: recently discovered bacon jerky!
I actually put up racking behind my wood stove and during the winter or cold nights I can dry out and cure vegetables. I also use it to dry out onions and garlic and chillies in winter to make different powders out of them to cook with.
This year I might try my hand at evaporating and powdering milk and eggs in shallow pans.
Al
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Thanks, that doesn't sound too hard....
For the love of god make sure you turn it off first! Some of those heaters get hot as hell and I'd hate to see you melt your garden hose and burn the shit out of yourself.
Without power some sort of cooking source will be needed, and a fuel source to power it. Some things can be warmed in the hot Florida sun for free.
Thats a lot of water. Depending on where in fl u are you might want to look into a well. The water table in my yard is 5' down. There are places around here that are 3' down
Storing/using water in that way starts to become expensive. You might want to look into a filtration system or larger sized containers....gallon or a 5 gallon delivery
Look up a "solar oven". Think parked car in the hot summer sun magnified.
As for what I have for provisions I'm not 100% sure... I know I got a large barrel of dry pasta and another of dry rice then one more full of mixed beans and a shelf full of pasta sauce not including what I got in my freezer and cupboards.
If I can get everything finished before the snow flies I should also have a smoker built for making venison jerky and as for water I have a well with both a hand pump and an electric pump not including the three ponds out back.
I know on my land that there's edible mushrooms, fiddle heads, black berries, goose berries, strawberries, winter mint, asparagus, cat tails, and around nine apple trees not including the nut bearing trees.
Lots of hunting and fishing around these parts as well.
Al
Hope those stores are in Mylar bags with oxygen absorbers. You know to prevent them getting moldy/stale.
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Whats up duckhunter
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Sealed barrels ATM, When I can afford it I'll be buying a bulk of Mylar bags and absorbers. I use and rotate my stock as well.
I'm also looking at a vacuum sealer for jars and a better grain mill but again as money comes available.
Al
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Sealed barrels ATM, When I can afford it I'll be buying a bulk of Mylar bags and absorbers. I use and rotate my stock as well.
I'm also looking at a vacuum sealer for jars and a better grain mill but again as money comes available.
Al
I check the thrift shops for gear preps. As for Mylar, you can get good rates on talking to distributors directly. I'm with you right now: have to wait for some money, but when I get a fair amount I'm making a shit ton of single serve Mylar packed Red Beans and Rice or other "indefinite" foodstuffs.