The Sanctuary
Carnality => Bad Ideas => Topic started by: aYoungKing on September 02, 2014, 04:37:32 am
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ok, so this guy I know is a retired burglar, he tells me that he has done many things, never got caught, and was getting pretty good, but he decided to give it up, follow his guidelines, and for the most part you should be safe if you or people you know are going to part take in a burglary
now he has many things he would like to share about his experiences
here's what he has to say
important things first
1. this is NOT a game, you will go to prison for this if you fuck things up for yourself
2. You need to be aware of the charges you'll face when you're caught, things like having a gun, stealing more than 500 dollars worth of stuff will be felonies, research it
3. You need to be in good condition for stuff like this, like being in shape, if you're a clapped out grandpa, this is not your ballpark
4. DO NOT BE SURPRISED IF YOU GET CAUGHT , for most it's only a matter of time before this happens, be ready for it, the doors may come down and the heat can rain down on you at ANY moment, realize that failure is ALWAYS a chance
now that his most important rules have been posted, here are his preparation guidelines
1. You need to be in shape, you might have to run, you might have to fight, you might have to force your way in, all require you to be in shape and be in healthy condition, if you aren't in shape, get in shape
2. You cannot be clumsy, you need good balance, good coordination, good motor controls, practice these, they are very important to moving through a building quickly and quietly
next topic is the tools one would acquire for this type of job
1. Crowbars and pry bars, different shapes, different sizes, get some
2. Bolt cutters, big and small, the big ones should be of high quality, you can't risk breaking these on a paddle lock, bolt cutters might just save your ass in a tight spot
3. Battery powered hand drills, with all screw driver bits, and all top quality drill bits, recommended you pick one that's quiet and does not have LED lights on it, you can get past a door very quickly if you have access to the hinges
4. Lock picking tools, sets can be ordered online, your average deadbolt can be opened in seconds by a skilled picker
5. Robust flathead screw drivers, these will work well for many things and are a great universal tool
6. Knife of some sort, keep it sharp
7. Flash light, a bright one, recommended are headlamps, with bright LEDs
8. Glass breaking tool, these might come in handy and get out of a sticky situation in no time
now onto clothing
1. Wear a mask that effectively covers your face, very important, you should never go in a building with your face showing
2. Gloves, most any kind, ones that don't interfere with hand function, like rubber gloves or thin fleece like winter gloves, a finger print is incriminating evidence in most cases, don't risk it
3. Burglary specific shoes or boots, they should have good traction, not squeak, and be tough, especially if you're kicking in a door
4. Plain hoody, pull over not vip up
Dark Green is the most recommended color. It blends in with surroundings the most, and is the most versatile. Dark Blue is the second choice. Black is the most available and works well.
You will have all or a few of your clothes stashed out near the target building, or in the vehicle while you are parked a few blocks away. You will change out of your regular clothes just a few minutes before you enter the building.
onto bringing weapons in with you
Taking a gun with you is up to you, there are pros and cons to this
if you have a gun and someone catches you, and that someone doesn't have a gun, you have the upper hand over them, they will be intimidated seeing a guy wearing a mask in all black pointing a gun at their face
there are a lot of cons to it though
trouble will escalate quickly if a gun is pulled out
if you do shoot(which you really should only do as an absolute last resort), it is going to be very loud, theres going to be an almost blinding flash, and it will attract more attention, a lot of it
the charges will be harder if you get caught BnE with a gun
however being in a situation where another guy has a gun on you is going to be a very bad situation for you, if you have one trouble is bound to arise but at least you will be on level ground
if you do choose to bring a gun, it should be a small one, a semi automatic .22lr pistol, or a good ole fashion 9mm semi auto pistol, higher capacity magazines are good
anything bigger than this is just going to be louder, have more recoil, carry less ammo, and have a bigger flash, do you think you could function after being shot by a 9? probably not
just to be stated again, never use a gun until the last moment and when you absolutely need to, a gun is used mostly for intimidation, try your best to keep it that way
if you don't choose to bring a gun at the very least bring a knife, you don't want someone having an advantage over you, a knife is also a very useful tool
next subject is the post operation stash spots
you need a place to put the stuff right? you should never bring stolen items to your house or any place where if they get found you will be put into hot water
choose a place where you won't be thought of if they are found by the owners or the cops
this stash spot needs to be predetermined before the operation goes down
recommended you have more than one, if your stash spot is compromised you'll lose all the stuff you just stole if you put it all in the same place
after things have cooled off and you are some what sure that things will be alright if you bring all the items to your house, then do it, recommended you let things cool off for at least 7 days
next subject is your arrival/get away vehicle
full size sedans, crew cab half ton pick up trucks, and vans are recommended for a cargo carrying get away vehicle
regardless of what type of vehicle it is, it should be fast, it should be able to handle well, it should blend in with all the other cars on the road and should not stand out, have room for the cargo, have good brakes, with the tail lights having a toggle switch so they can be turned off and the reflectors should be covered just before the operation
more posts to come, that guy i know has even more that he would like to share
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I truly hope you're a fed trying to pass bullshit down onto amateurs because this is some of the steamingest pile of shit on the web
Not exactly my favorite part, but definitely the most relevant: #1...jail would be the ideal in this situation considering the rate of firearms ownership in todays society. Stumble into a home owner that looses a close-range 000 buckshot at a robbers (if someone is home its not a burglary anymore. Woops) face and mommies going to a closed casket going away party
Post pics
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I truly hope you're a fed trying to pass bullshit down onto amateurs because this is some of the steamingest pile of shit on the web
Not exactly my favorite part, but definitely the most relevant: #1...jail would be the ideal in this situation considering the rate of firearms ownership in todays society. Stumble into a home owner that looses a close-range 000 buckshot at a robbers (if someone is home its not a burglary anymore. Woops) face and mommies going to a closed casket going away party
Post pics
that guy i know(now used to know) never broke into homes, that's too much risk for chump change
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Good thing based on that info
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Seems rather odd, why is a zip up hoody not OK? seems like it wouldn't make a difference.
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Seems rather odd, why is a zip up hoody not OK? seems like it wouldn't make a difference.
unzip hoodies are harder to take off by someone else, just one little thing to help keep you unidentifiable
but then again you can also wear a long sleeve dark shirt under the hoody, but you still won't have a hood. it's your choice really, that guy i used to know is only sharing how he thinks it should be done
ALL THIS INFO SHOULD BE TAKEN WITH A GRAIN OF SALT AND IS NOT A "BREAKING AND ENTERING FOR DUMMIES"
EVERY SITUATION IS UNIQUE
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I've heard to not wear black. Wear natural colors that match your surroundings. Black in the dark != blue, grey, or green in the dark.
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I've heard to not wear black. Wear natural colors that match your surroundings. Black in the dark != blue, grey, or green in the dark.
dark green blends in the most and is the most versatile, second choice would be dark blue
he specified black because it was almost always dark and night time when operations went down and because black is the most available color
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dark green blends in the most and is the most versatile, second choice would be dark blue
he specified black because it was almost always dark and night time when operations went down and because black is the most available color
Unless it's absolute, pitch black (e.g. almost never in the city or even in a remote dwelling) black will still stick out in the dark compared to a color that's in the surroundings. Though, I can't think of a good reason why dark blue or dark green would be better than any other dark color.
As for availability, if you can't afford a $5 hoodie from Value Village, you should probably give up on the whole burglary game.
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dark green blends in the most and is the most versatile, second choice would be dark blue
he specified black because it was almost always dark and night time when operations went down and because black is the most available color
Unless it's absolute, pitch black (e.g. almost never in the city or even in a remote dwelling) black will still stick out in the dark compared to a color that's in the surroundings. Though, I can't think of a good reason why dark blue or dark green would be better than any other dark color.
As for availability, if you can't afford a $5 hoodie from Value Village, you should probably give up on the whole burglary game.
blue and green are very common colors, that is why they are the best.
as for the value village comment, dark dark green is usually not that available, at least compared to black, why order a sweater and wait for shipping when you could just pick up black off the shelf and be done with it. black will get the job done and is satisfactory, while i agree it isn't the best. It still works
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Before you enter your target building, you NEED to write down EVERYTHING you bring in with you. Your clothes, tools, phones, flashlights, bags. EVERYTHING!
This is very important, count your tools before you go. Like your locking picking set, count the pieces you have before and after your operation.
It also helps to NOT BRING ANYTHING YOU DO NOT NEED. You will be able to carry more stuff from your target building, and it makes it less likely you'll drop anything and leave it behind
Make your list in the pre-operation stash spot, the one where you are changing into your burglary clothes a few blocks away from the target building. The spot just before you walk over and break in.
This way you'll be able to know what you lost if you lost anything. You will be able to evaluate the importance of what you lost. If you lost 1 screw driver or one lock pick, then no big deal unless you put your finger prints on them. It will not be worth the risk to go back and get items that you lost if they cannot be traced back to you. However if you dropped something like a phone, then ohhhhhh boy you better make a plan to get back and get it fast before someone finds out. The trouble will be big if the cops find your phone or ANYTHING that can be traced back to you in the building you just jacked.
It is best to read the list of what you brought in and count what you didn't lose on the drive/get away part of the operation. The sooner you know what you lost, the better.
Lots of people will say that this is not important. This probably won't be important if you're breaking into homes. That guy I used to know never broke into homes though. This is what the pros do, the ones that put together heists and pull off operations only the best of the best can get done.