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Carnality => Bad Ideas => Topic started by: Legendary on November 15, 2014, 03:09:49 pm

Title: Paypal 'Flip' Double Your money
Post by: Legendary on November 15, 2014, 03:09:49 pm
A possible scam that "might" work in your country. Word "might" is there because I know for a fact that it does work and has worked for unlimited of times.

First one would have to open two stealth accounts, both eBay and PayPal. One could be genuine with your real ID but not recommended. Other eBay account is to sell something, lets call it mister A, another is just to buy, mister B.

1: Mister A sells something... XBox, PS, camcorder... You name it.
2: Mister B buys and pays it.
3: Mister A send something (a rock in a box maybe?) to Mister B and add shipping information both in eBay and PayPal.
4: Mister B gets the package from post.
5: To make sure everything goes OK, you can first wait 21 days before doing anything on Mister A's funds, but you do can send it further to you third PP account or buy something from eBay etc. that supports PP payment, just after three days from shipping. Has worked every time, but if your country has 21 days limitation, then you have to wait.
6. Mister B files a claim (after Mister A has moved most of the funds out from his account in chosen manner) that item is not as described; reason: Rock in a box!!!
7. Mister A ether answers to claim that: "Haa haa, go f*ck yourself, nice rock, isn't it?" or doesn't answer anything.
8. Mister B wons the case everytime and gets reimbursement from PP/eBay, they take the hit because Mister A doesn't have funds in his account. It just goes to negative.
9. Discard your Mister A account and newer ever use it or any emails linked to it again.

Note: You really don't even have to ship anything for real, just make up shipping number and you can transfer funds to another account after 21 days at least. This have been done succesfully just after three days without really sending anything.

Everytime won and money is doubled! Not suggestin to do this ever, this is "just" a hypothesis and I don't want anyone to do any crimes...




Somebody just got done as follows:

Opened U.S. PP account with totally bogus info from foreign country not even using VPN, proxy or anything and didn't even confirm email address.
Added checking account to it and confirmed it with two small deposits way.

Had already an older verified account that's in "everyday" use. From this account sent money $250 (camcorder purchase outside of eBay) to new account.

Went to new account, accepted the payment, immediatelly withdrawed it to checking account and deleted that bank account.

This took about less than hour.

Waited four days to open dispute item not received just not to get any answer from "seller" and escalated dispute to a claim at the seventh day. Surprice surprice, answer from "seller" that don't have item anymore nor can't refund. Got money back. Seller account on negative.

And that's it folks.
Title: Re: Paypal 'Flip' Double Your money
Post by: Legendary on November 15, 2014, 03:10:45 pm
Now this is proven to work with amount over $2500.
21days limitation hitted and needed documents of purchase and proof that "I" own item sold (LCD TV).
Money was devided to three different direction, one part to eBay purchase, one to prepaid VISA and one to send money.
Dispute opened and claimed immediatelly, case won. Seller account negative, other obviously in good health. Was an "international sale".
Title: Re: Paypal 'Flip' Double Your money
Post by: Legendary on November 15, 2014, 03:11:08 pm
Lets all just team up and do this.
Title: Re: Paypal 'Flip' Double Your money
Post by: Saint Hubertus on November 15, 2014, 03:15:07 pm
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Title: Re: Paypal 'Flip' Double Your money
Post by: Bewbees on November 15, 2014, 03:24:08 pm
My guess is Ebays gonna tell you to fuck off. Doesn't this accomplish the same thing as the amazon scam just way more complicated?
Title: Re: Paypal 'Flip' Double Your money
Post by: Bewbees on November 15, 2014, 03:37:12 pm
Ya Ebays not going to pay you shit cause you got scammed, neither will amazon, thats not how it works.
Title: Re: Paypal 'Flip' Double Your money
Post by: Suicidal Fish on November 15, 2014, 04:44:43 pm
I was thinking about thus thread from Zoklet today.

The best chance is either spending money or transferring to 3rd stealth account.

But Don't use ebay.

Just send PayPal invoice from A to B then cash out and say never arrived. Claim gets filed you don't refute it and get money back. But also use an account that has some transactions on it.
Title: Re: Paypal 'Flip' Double Your money
Post by: ngalo1983 on November 15, 2014, 06:14:14 pm
You guys are all going about this the wrong way. I used to do that stunt when hardly anyone done it. That's old news. Now I got older and more greedier (Yes, I make up my own words lol). Anyway, the best way to pull off a lot of money is have a legit eBay in your name. Now create a stealth eBay account. Have that stealth eBay account sell expensive shit to your legit account but sell it outside of eBay just on PayPal. The legit PayPal sends $2000 straight to the stealth PayPal and has it labeled that its paid for as a service for an iPhone 6plus and pay for it. Now use your stealth PayPal to withdraw that money because their is no 21 day hold but wait 2 days before doing it. After you successfully withdraw the whole 2k then use your legit PayPal to file a dispute because you never received anything. Now go to your stealth PayPal and write, sorry I lost the package and click on issue a refund. Now your stealth PayPal will get limited and not only do I a have the 2k but will get 2k refunded back to my PayPal. Now I came up on an easy 2k. Please don't message me or ask me anyquestions because i layed it all out easy for you if your still confused the PayPal scam wasn't meant for you.
Title: Re: Paypal 'Flip' Double Your money
Post by: otangabang on November 16, 2014, 05:33:09 am
Old and clearly less than half complete

Also, I call bullshit on this:


Opened U.S. PP account with totally bogus info from foreign country not even using VPN, proxy or anything and didn't even confirm email address.
Added checking account to it and confirmed it with two small deposits way.
Title: Re: Paypal 'Flip' Double Your money
Post by: Legendary on November 16, 2014, 08:04:01 am
This information is exactly one year old.  Of course it not complete. I did not say this was a complete guide, this is from the member known only as 'Funaswego'.
Title: Re: Paypal 'Flip' Double Your money
Post by: Suicidal Fish on November 16, 2014, 08:16:41 am
This information is exactly one year old.  Of course it not complete. I did not say this was a complete guide, this is from the member known only as 'Funaswego'.

I am sure he was a FED.

Title: Re: Paypal 'Flip' Double Your money
Post by: Autodidact on November 18, 2014, 06:23:38 pm
I have quite a few bogus paypals that are verified with totally ridiculous names/half assed to look legit addresses and they never were limited
Title: Re: Paypal 'Flip' Double Your money
Post by: Freegamer on November 20, 2014, 10:09:55 am
tc this is called the three way paypal scam.  its real simple.

you need either two or three accounts.  depending on whether or not you want to withdraw to bank account.

put something up for sale
buy it
on seller account make sure to add a 1-day shipping service and ship the same business day.
once item is sold mark it as shipped.
funds will be available in ~10 days.  i have had it as early as 8.
buy something or withdraw money.
open inr dispute.  wait 6 days and escalate.  you will always win inr disputes as long as they are files before 45 days are up and there is no tracking.

swim started with 200 8 months ago and made about 10 grand. 
Title: Re: Paypal 'Flip' Double Your money
Post by: Legendary on November 20, 2014, 01:19:32 pm
Umm you must be doing something wrong... Funds are Always available after 3 days of item arrival with tracking....not 8.

And according to 'Funaswego' you don't even need tracking after 3 full days of being marked with a random tracking number funds release.


You can even call paypal before 3 full days and have a rep release funds. I've had them released in 48 hours by a paypal rep.
Title: Re: Paypal 'Flip' Double Your money
Post by: bling bling on November 20, 2014, 03:13:26 pm
step 1 u go 2 the king and buy king meal deal a nd a plain ice cream

step 2 after u give the wageslave the money for food u dont let him take it get uur money back in the pocket

step 3 call for da manager asap bcause u r relly pissed off

step 45 tell themu want ur money back

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?ganjganjaganjga
Title: Re: Paypal 'Flip' Double Your money
Post by: Suicidal Fish on November 22, 2014, 08:38:57 am
tc this is called the three way paypal scam.  its real simple.

you need either two or three accounts.  depending on whether or not you want to withdraw to bank account.

put something up for sale
buy it
on seller account make sure to add a 1-day shipping service and ship the same business day.
once item is sold mark it as shipped.
funds will be available in ~10 days.  i have had it as early as 8.
buy something or withdraw money.
open inr dispute.  wait 6 days and escalate.  you will always win inr disputes as long as they are files before 45 days are up and there is no tracking.

swim started with 200 8 months ago and made about 10 grand.

Had any issues with account linking?
Title: Re: Paypal 'Flip' Double Your money
Post by: Freegamer on November 24, 2014, 03:45:18 am
tc this is called the three way paypal scam.  its real simple.

you need either two or three accounts.  depending on whether or not you want to withdraw to bank account.

put something up for sale
buy it
on seller account make sure to add a 1-day shipping service and ship the same business day.
once item is sold mark it as shipped.
funds will be available in ~10 days.  i have had it as early as 8.
buy something or withdraw money.
open inr dispute.  wait 6 days and escalate.  you will always win inr disputes as long as they are files before 45 days are up and there is no tracking.

swim started with 200 8 months ago and made about 10 grand.

Had any issues with account linking?

sometimes.  its pretty strange.  happened to two accounts after i was done with them.
Title: Re: Paypal 'Flip' Double Your money
Post by: Xres on December 08, 2014, 08:40:45 pm
You guys are all going about this the wrong way. I used to do that stunt when hardly anyone done it. That's old news. Now I got older and more greedier (Yes, I make up my own words lol). Anyway, the best way to pull off a lot of money is have a legit eBay in your name. Now create a stealth eBay account. Have that stealth eBay account sell expensive shit to your legit account but sell it outside of eBay just on PayPal. The legit PayPal sends $2000 straight to the stealth PayPal and has it labeled that its paid for as a service for an iPhone 6plus and pay for it. Now use your stealth PayPal to withdraw that money because their is no 21 day hold but wait 2 days before doing it. After you successfully withdraw the whole 2k then use your legit PayPal to file a dispute because you never received anything. Now go to your stealth PayPal and write, sorry I lost the package and click on issue a refund. Now your stealth PayPal will get limited and not only do I a have the 2k but will get 2k refunded back to my PayPal. Now I came up on an easy 2k. Please don't message me or ask me anyquestions because i layed it all out easy for you if your still confused the PayPal scam wasn't meant for you.

About to do this in a couple of days, anyone currently doing this?
Title: Re: Paypal 'Flip' Double Your money
Post by: Xres on December 08, 2014, 08:42:49 pm
tc this is called the three way paypal scam.  its real simple.

you need either two or three accounts.  depending on whether or not you want to withdraw to bank account.

put something up for sale
buy it
on seller account make sure to add a 1-day shipping service and ship the same business day.
once item is sold mark it as shipped.
funds will be available in ~10 days.  i have had it as early as 8.
buy something or withdraw money.
open inr dispute.  wait 6 days and escalate.  you will always win inr disputes as long as they are files before 45 days are up and there is no tracking.

swim started with 200 8 months ago and made about 10 grand.

Had any issues with account linking?

sometimes.  its pretty strange.  happened to two accounts after i was done with them.


I read that linking accounts can be from anywhere from using the same picture, using similar emails, having similar descriptions, having similar passwords. its weird but I have heard of them linking becaue of this
Title: Re: Paypal 'Flip' Double Your money
Post by: ngalo1983 on December 08, 2014, 10:54:24 pm
Yes, you will get linked. That's why you gotta cClean, then change your IP, then create your stealth account but don't use same pictures or anything. Its best to separate your eBay by username so you don't cross each other & get link. Create a new user for when you log on to your computer. On your first username title it eBay 1 and enter your password. Now your create your first eBay and PayPal. Now log out. Create another username to log into your computer & call it Ebay-2 now go there and create your second eBay and PayPal but do that after you change IP address. Bam your done.