The Sanctuary
Carnality => Bad Ideas => Topic started by: Not An Alt on November 07, 2014, 10:43:45 am
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I like helping people fight LE, so by sharing this information, I do 9999x more damage to them than just keeping it to myself. I've seen lots of posts by noobs asking about raids, warrants, what the LE do and what they search, so I'll help you guys out here. This is a general short guide for this, but I might add more or if anyone has information, I'll probably add that to it. This is mostly based on western raids. But you'd think that most LE everywhere use most of these tactics. I've already shared all of this info many times before. But now I'm just going to post it here so I don't have to repeat myself and to help noobies.
LE are not entirely stupid. When they have the warrant for the raid, they have everything prepared and know what to look for. They've obtained a floor plan for your building already, had detective(s) watch you or the building over time, and they have good reason to believe there is some bad activity in there. They will have researched all escape routes you could possibly take and will have them blocked off as they move towards your building, so you can't run away. They will search your walls, floor, vents, roof, and food packages. Before, during, or after they may ask your neighbors things about you and phish for any information they can get. They most likely won't dig around your yard, unless it looks like you've dug up somewhere there before. They may or may not use dogs. Usually, they'd had to have found at least 1 illegal thing such as drugs or bombs before they'd do that. If they do, then there is nowhere that you can hide those items anywhere on the property without the dogs finding it or people.
If they find even one thing illegal there/suspicious, they will do the whole 9 yards in the search procedure. Your car is covered in the search warrant as well. Doesn't matter if they destroy shit. If you don't have anything bad, they will cover it, but it will take a longgggggg time to get refunded for what THEY say the item is worth. If you did have something bad, lol then they will see it as the raid was justified and they don't have to pay for shit because fuck you. They will not fix things before they leave. They will leave your windows broken and your door bashed off the hinges, wide open and you will be sitting there at 5am angry that you were too lazy and high to secure your OPS. The scope of the warrant lets them re-raid you over and over at any point after they've raided you too and it even extends to the future residents of that building. You should move if that happens. You basically have aids.
Another trick they do is they tell you that you have to look down at the ground at all times as far as your eyes will go down, like at your own body (yes, for the entire time they are there [hours and hours]). If you fail to do this, they say that you were disobeying officers and then they'll have an excuse to arrest (process) you. Once you are processed, it's over. They have your fingerprints in the database and you would have to be pretty retarded to go back to this line of work.
Being processed even once = 10000x easier to catch you in the future for anything.
A lot of people see it as they would kill themselves in this event if they possibly can before they reach them. And for those people, I'll tell you one thing you could do that they won't be prepared for. You could set up traps just in case this kind of thing happens. Because LE are NOT prepared for that kind of thing. That's rare and you'd kill a bunch of them if you had traps at the exits and all around. At least you could kill some before you killed yourself to evade capture.
So you have to think about these things when you are preparing your OPsec and counter them. This is how you never get caught and be a pro 360 no scoper cool
And a protip: keep a small block of c4 taped to the back of the door armed with a trip wire just incase. And if they ever got past that, get a bunch of those bear claw traps surrounding the door on the inside.
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Started off sounding relatively well put together, but then went full retard.
:picard:
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If LE is going to search or raid your shit they are aware it may be trapped. I agree with the above post. You a started off okay but meh.
If I had problems with law enforcement or government officials I would repeat the phrase "Am I being detained" until they address my question. If it is not an immediate yes and explanation why you can bet you wont be detained as long as you play your cards right.
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If I had problems with law enforcement or government officials I would repeat the phrase "Am I being detained" until they address my question. If it is not an immediate yes and explanation why you can bet you wont be detained as long as you play your cards right.
Yes, this should keep you safe from raids, just repeat 'am I being detained' until they physically shut you up by punching you in the stomach, and then they will step over you and search your house anyway.
I have had cops try to come in my house without a warrant more than once. I told them to fuck off and come back with a warrant, and they begrudgingly left. I have also had them push the door open as soon as I opened the door, and force their way in. The circumstances were different in that case though, they were 'in pursuit' of someone (it wasn't me, but I got arrested for it anyway, long story)
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What a stupid thread, OP is an edgy 13 year old
Something that DOES work is if you've got drugs that are undetectable to dogs (typically in pill form) but know the cops intend on being thorough, leave needles with the tips off ALL around your house, as soon as a cop sees that they get scared of catching AIDS/Hep C whatever. It's one thing to die in a shootout in the line of duty, it's another to die from AIDS for searching some junkies apartment. Leave them with the tips off, everywhere and they'll be far from thorough in their search. Also, once cops find drug, they typically don't look that hard afterwards. If you had drugs in a SEEMINGLY hidden spot they think "hey we got his stash, lol, lets finish the search just to say we did" and don't look too thoroughly afterwards
See, this is actual shit instead of OPs edgy 13 year old kill yourself horseshit
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I suppose I should indicate that my post is more for general interaction with law enforcement rather than specifically raids.
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if OP had half a clue sneak-and-peeks would be addressed. one of the most prevalent misuses of judicial authority ever
if someone is having a warrant served where they are their best bet is to leave, unless they have been arrested
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if OP had half a clue sneak-and-peeks would be addressed. one of the most prevalent misuses of judicial authority ever
if someone is having a warrant served where they are their best bet is to leave, unless they have been arrested
What a brilliant observation.
I know when I get raided, typically the warrant is just in my houses name and I'm free to go, but I usually just stay around so I'm ready to get arrested if they find drugs and decide to charge me instead of my house. Thanks for telling me there's another way!
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Better plan: don't store illegal shit at your residence.
LOL c wut i did thar?
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I think this has potential for being a good thread.
Suggest that all off topic posts be deleted, please mods?
Having been raided twice I think this could be a good thread for advice pertaining to stashing your shit, how to deal with potential raids and the like.
My advice, if you're running any sort of illegal operation you have got to be observant at all times. If you can't have serveillance equipment, at least have a dog to alert you, because 10-20 seconds could mean the difference between going to jail or being free.
Try to become a morning person. Most raids happen early in the morning to catch you off guard.
If possible do not keep your stash (drugs, guns, money, whatever you deal with) or your scales/bags/equipment where you live. If you're dealing in drugs best bet is to keep only what you need for the day on you that way in the early morning your supply should either be gone or you have so little that a quick trip to the bathroom will keep you clean and shouldn't hurt your bottom line too much.
Raids can be scary but you have got to remember at all times, DO NOT ADMIT GUILT in any way to the cops. Talk to them as little as possible, although IMO it is better to feign innocence and act confused rather than just clamming up/asking for your attorney etc. When a cop says "If you're honest with me I can try to help you" or something like that, they are FULL OF SHIT. These guys are trained to get confessions out of you and that is all they care about.
As far as setting traps.. yeah IDK about that. The only reason I would see to commit suicide is if you have dead bodies in the basement or if you're a 3rd striker. Although IDK if they could do anything legally about you setting traps.. you could argue they were in case of burglary.. you don't expect LE to come busting into your house. I really don't know as far as that goes, but hey since they're trying to ruin your life it would be poetic justice to maim and ruin some of their lives :) C4 seems a little crazy but I like the bear trap idea LOL
That's all I got for now.
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a quick trip to the bathroom
sometimes they shut the water off
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a quick trip to the bathroom
sometimes they shut the water off
poop all over it
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I have no real knowledge of raids, but I will give you a tip to stop dogs from finding anything. Buy an oz of weed. Grind it up. Sprinkle it everywhere. Mix it with water and paint the walls and ceilings with the weed water. If they bring in a dog, it will bark at everything, and will be essentially useless. Also if you are trying to stash shit, find a good spot. There is an FBI house search document on the internet (I don't want to find it) where they basically teach agents how to do thorough search's. Its pretty god damn extensive. Now, most standard raids are not going to be that in depth, but still if you wanna hid something, you better think outside the box. Realistically, it is probably a lot easier to stash your shit somewhere else.
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A member on totse2 talked about how he wrapped up all his illegal guns and buried them. I found that hilarious.
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A member on totse2 talked about how he wrapped up all his illegal guns and buried them. I found that hilarious.
He should of tried to flush them down the toilet.
Then played the insanity card.
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A member on totse2 talked about how he wrapped up all his illegal guns and buried them. I found that hilarious.
lol who was that?
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A member on totse2 talked about how he wrapped up all his illegal guns and buried them. I found that hilarious.
lol who was that?
dirtysanchez. he posted pictures of his illegal weapons either in irc or i think in a forum on totse.info or totse2. he changed his name a few times. i think he posted under josef stalin on totse2.
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In cali if you see a bunch of edison or gas power company vans outside the trap house you gon get raided boy.
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Yeah dealing in guns is a tough business. I would never fuck with guns.
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sometimes they shut the water off
That would be useless. The toilet can still flush once. If they're really on the ball, they'll go pop a manhole just down the street and wait for your shit (pun intended).
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That would be useless. The toilet can still flush once. If they're really on the ball, they'll go pop a manhole just down the street and wait for your shit (pun intended).
I don't think there would be anything they could do even if they pop the manhole and wait for the drugs to come by because they cant prove that it came from your house no matter how likely it is that its your stash.
INB4 FEDZ ARE IN YOUR SEPTIC TANK!
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My mother in law's lowlife ex husband got popped a few times, and I got a front row seat to seeing the cops raid my nigger neighbor's place. Them fuckers are quick! Dumbass was growing weed in the back yard and the neighbor over the back fence called it in. They hit the front door, but he managed to get out the back... right into two more cops. They literally hogtied him and carried him out.
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lol somewhat related to conversation:
Once, while during a 2ce trip, I got a fake fbi virus and decided to throw out my stash. I was all paranoid because there was a water facility down the road and I thought they would process the water and use it for evidence.
#paranoia
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one time the cops knocked on my door to check on my curfew and I flushed about 50g of weed and about a hundred or so oxycontin/dilaudid down the toilet. My buddys gf was sittin in the chair and as soon as I came out of the bathroom after the toilet flush her eyes got all wide and she was like "omg." During this I "answered" the door from the other side but my dog was going nuts and I think the UC's knew I had a pitbull so they were cool and preferred I didn't open it right away and got bitten (that was my thinking as to why they knocked instead of busted down the door, as well as I thought I was going to get arrested for something that had happened months ago I found out they were continuing to follow up on) so basically, I opened the door and they were like "cool" so I wasted a buncha dope for no reason other than my own paranoia.
This is of course not even close to true because everything I type is some sort of DaGuru inspired contrived internet persona and your bubble yum ass would probably etc.