The Sanctuary
Ego => Spurious Generalities => Topic started by: helladamnleet on November 07, 2014, 04:20:13 am
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http://guardianlv.com/2014/07/how-close-are-humans-to-immortality/
What do you guys think about immortality? I was thinking about it just now, and my argument always used to be that people need to die to prevent overpopulation, but really, what's to say we won't be able to occupy Mars or the Moon by then?
Would you make yourself "immortal"? When would be your cue to die? How long would you go on?
Personally, I'd do it, and I think I'd hang on for the ride and explore the galaxy if it ever becomes a reality.
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We're eternal already. We don't need immortality.
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We're eternal already. We don't need immortality.
It's not "immortality" it would just be taking away the ability to die via old age or sickness.
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Still if I didn't get sick and just lived on yeah sure seeing how advanced civilization gets and being able to live centuries would be all fun and great but outliving all your friends, then each generation having like a new life, getting a new set of friends and acquaintances, after the 4th or 5th set of "lifetimes" it would turn into torture
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The kingdom of god is already Inside you.
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Still if I didn't get sick and just lived on yeah sure seeing how advanced civilization gets and being able to live centuries would be all fun and great but outliving all your friends, then each generation having like a new life, getting a new set of friends and acquaintances, after the 4th or 5th set of "lifetimes" it would turn into torture
But it's not like you'd be the only "immortal" either. You'd have "immortal" friends, and you could pull your own plug at any time. I see what you mean though, I was thinking about how my wife probably wouldn't get it so I'd have to not only watch her die, but watch her remains eventually be dug up and developed over.
The kingdom of god is already Inside you.
No it isn't because it doesn't exist.
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I'd rather kill myself... provided that doing so would still be possible. Probably with a big bang so the nano robots can't put me back together.
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I don't want life to end, but I suspect insanity would await many who live for extreme lengths of time. The human mind didn't evolve to exist forever.
We're eternal already. We don't need immortality.
I think this thread is for people who don't believe in fairies.
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Everything would become insignificant after a while. If you lived to say, 1,200, a 30 year marriage would seem about as long as a bachelor party. I guess one benefit would be that you could amass wealth/do/create things that you otherwise wouldn't have time to do if you were mortal.
I would probably choose to be immortal given the option but no way I could continue on forever, I'd have to pull my own plug eventually, just my own theory but I think after a while you would go insane.
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I don't want life to end, but I suspect insanity would await many who live for extreme lengths of time. The human mind didn't evolve to exist forever.
We're eternal already. We don't need immortality.
I think this thread is for people who don't believe in fairies.
if we can fathom the idea of infinity then I would say our brains were designed for the 'long haul'
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if we can fathom the idea of infinity then I would say our brains were designed for the 'long haul'
I always figured that infinity is just a theory at best, and could never really exist in this reality....because if there is an 'infinity' of anything, wouldn't that one thing 'crowd everything else out'? I mean, if there was an infinity of something, where would there be room for the rest of existence?
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if we can fathom the idea of infinity then I would say our brains were designed for the 'long haul'
I always figured that infinity is just a theory at best, and could never really exist in this reality....because if there is an 'infinity' of anything, wouldn't that one thing 'crowd everything else out? I mean, if there was an infinity of something, where would there be room for the rest of existence?
Inside of that infinity?
This is cool and would give Sploo a shapegasm.
http://www.math.cornell.edu/~mec/Summer2009/ABjorndahl/extension.html
Everything is fractals and therefor infinite in itself.
:suspect:
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I don't want life to end, but I suspect insanity would await many who live for extreme lengths of time. The human mind didn't evolve to exist forever.
We're eternal already. We don't need immortality.
I think this thread is for people who don't believe in fairies.
if we can fathom the idea of infinity...
We can't.
...then I would say our brains were designed for the 'long haul'
The human brain starts to measurably deteriorate during the third decade of life.
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Inside of that infinity?
This is cool and would give Sploo a shapegasm.
http://www.math.cornell.edu/~mec/Summer2009/ABjorndahl/extension.html
Everything is fractals and therefor infinite in itself.
:suspect:
this makes my head hurt
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Just like rick and morty its a simulation inside another simulation.
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rick and morty
wish they would make some new episodes
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Pretty sure I'm immortal.
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There's plenty of shit I want to do that will take longer than the average human life span.
Think of it this way: if any of us had been born in say, 1500, would we be bored/want to kill ourselves at this point? Definitely not. If anything, I'd be even more excited as I watched technology develop/new trends emerge/old trends emerge etc etc.
You would definitely need immortal compatriots, though. Otherwise yes, it would be horrible as fuck.
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Though it is important to note that immortality from old age would make the likelihood of you dying in a horrific accident jump to 100%.
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Everything would become insignificant after a while. If you lived to say, 1,200, a 30 year marriage would seem about as long as a bachelor party. I guess one benefit would be that you could amass wealth/do/create things that you otherwise wouldn't have time to do if you were mortal.
I would probably choose to be immortal given the option but no way I could continue on forever, I'd have to pull my own plug eventually, just my own theory but I think after a while you would go insane.
We all end up like the cenobites eventually... if we want to. If you don't want to then no. You could do much with immortality my friend. There's a wealth of information to be learned and taught. There's science and wonder enough for whatever eternity you choose. You don't have to go any more mad than you want to, and you can always recover.
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Everything would become insignificant after a while. If you lived to say, 1,200, a 30 year marriage would seem about as long as a bachelor party. I guess one benefit would be that you could amass wealth/do/create things that you otherwise wouldn't have time to do if you were mortal.
I would probably choose to be immortal given the option but no way I could continue on forever, I'd have to pull my own plug eventually, just my own theory but I think after a while you would go insane.
See, that's what I would be afraid of. On the flip side what if my wife also became an Immortal and stayed with me for 1,000+ years? I think that would almost drive me more insane.
rick and morty
wish they would make some new episodes
Be too. Good thing they are :)
There's plenty of shit I want to do that will take longer than the average human life span.
Think of it this way: if any of us had been born in say, 1500, would we be bored/want to kill ourselves at this point? Definitely not. If anything, I'd be even more excited as I watched technology develop/new trends emerge/old trends emerge etc etc.
You would definitely need immortal compatriots, though. Otherwise yes, it would be horrible as fuck.
This! There is SO MUCH that I want to see that will just be happening right after my time. Could you IMAGINE having actually KNOWN Jesus? Or to have actually BEEN THERE for the first Thanksgiving? SPACE is the new frontier for Mankind IMO, but that's a different thread entirerly.
Though it is important to note that immortality from old age would make the likelihood of you dying in a horrific accident jump to 100%.
Why is this? I mean, yes, it would literally jump to 100% because I wouldn't get sick or have organ failure or whatever, but this also assumes that the nanobots are constantly repairing our bodies too.
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Be too. Good thing they are :)
eh?
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I always thought humanities desire to achieve immortality shows how childish we are as a species. Think about it, we can interact with our world in ways no other biological organism that we know of can. We have extremely evolved cognitive abilities. And what do we say? BUT I WANT IT FOREVER!!!
All machines break down. Everything is transitional. Humans will die out long before the universe is even close to its magnificent final act.
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I'd do it.
The only thing that keeps me from spending years and even decades on reading and improving myself is because i know it won't be long before i die, and by then it would all have been a waste.
And i also wouldn't feel bad for wasting my time on this site.
So yeah. Immortality would be a legit option for me, assuming i'd be able to off myself before the big rip.
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Be too. Good thing they are :)
eh?
Season 2 was confirmed
I'd do it.
The only thing that keeps me from spending years and even decades on reading and improving myself is because i know it won't be long before i die, and by then it would all have been a waste.
And i also wouldn't feel bad for wasting my time on this site.
So yeah. Immortality would be a legit option for me, assuming i'd be able to off myself before the big rip.
It's not necessarily killing yourself though, I mean, it could be like an office visit. You go in, either get put to sleep then killed, or have the nanobots taken out and you can die naturally eventually.
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Everything would become insignificant after a while. If you lived to say, 1,200, a 30 year marriage would seem about as long as a bachelor party. I guess one benefit would be that you could amass wealth/do/create things that you otherwise wouldn't have time to do if you were mortal.
I would probably choose to be immortal given the option but no way I could continue on forever, I'd have to pull my own plug eventually, just my own theory but I think after a while you would go insane.
See, that's what I would be afraid of. On the flip side what if my wife also became an Immortal and stayed with me for 1,000+ years? I think that would almost drive me more insane.
rick and morty
wish they would make some new episodes
Be too. Good thing they are :)
There's plenty of shit I want to do that will take longer than the average human life span.
Think of it this way: if any of us had been born in say, 1500, would we be bored/want to kill ourselves at this point? Definitely not. If anything, I'd be even more excited as I watched technology develop/new trends emerge/old trends emerge etc etc.
You would definitely need immortal compatriots, though. Otherwise yes, it would be horrible as fuck.
This! There is SO MUCH that I want to see that will just be happening right after my time. Could you IMAGINE having actually KNOWN Jesus? Or to have actually BEEN THERE for the first Thanksgiving? SPACE is the new frontier for Mankind IMO, but that's a different thread entirerly.
Though it is important to note that immortality from old age would make the likelihood of you dying in a horrific accident jump to 100%.
Why is this? I mean, yes, it would literally jump to 100% because I wouldn't get sick or have organ failure or whatever, but this also assumes that the nanobots are constantly repairing our bodies too.
I'm interpreting the premise very specifically; that is, old age or disease no longer causes death.
Sure, if we have nanobots that are capable of spontaneous body regeneration, we'd likely be able to avoid most horrific accidents - though immediate brain trauma would still be a serious concern, if not a less likely one.
Of course, if we are at that level of technology, we will be building our own realities and it would be nearly impossible to conceptualize daily life in any sense of the word.
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I always thought humanities desire to achieve immortality shows how childish we are as a species. Think about it, we can interact with our world in ways no other biological organism that we know of can. We have extremely evolved cognitive abilities. And what do we say? BUT I WANT IT FOREVER!!!!
You're contradicting yourself; immortality, amongst many other enhancements to its natural abilities, is a rational desire for a sentient organism.
All machines break down. Everything is transitional. Humans will die out long before the universe is even close to its magnificent final act.
By that logic you may as well just kill yourself now.