The Sanctuary
Site Discussion => Help & Suggestions => Topic started by: Chiefchicken on November 07, 2014, 02:29:34 am
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I think this could be a good change, the only question remaining is who would you nominate? (Obviously not yourself)
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Or just one good one...
There are like 15 people here
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The only good admins are the ones that actually own the site, any one else is just a glorified global.
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pick me pick me!!!!!!
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Baby raper for Admin. It'll be like the Munsters, only much more dysfunctional.
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There were two admins once.
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There were two admins once.
Ok.
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There were two admins once.
I was also a Russian motorcycle bear before communist forefathers stole my vodka and gave half to state once
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Baby raper for Admin. It'll be like the Munsters, only much more dysfunctional.
ill administrate da fuk outta this place.
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What would having two admins accomplish, exactly?
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What would having two admins accomplish, exactly?
the main goal is to promote a quality site and community as to gather more members and if elected I will seeto it that no voice goes unheard in regards to suggestions to improve our sanctuary. With me as second admin it will give arnox time to sit back and reflect before we both put our ideas together and vice versa
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What would having two admins accomplish, exactly?
This. Besides, anyone on staff has a say in all site matters. You don't need to be co-admin for that. It is actually much more a council than a dictatorship here.
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What would having two admins accomplish, exactly?
the main goal is to promote a quality site and community as to gather more members and if elected I will seeto it that no voice goes unheard in regards to suggestions to improve our sanctuary. With me as second admin it will give arnox time to sit back and reflect before we both put our ideas together and vice versa
hey
go fuck yourself mate
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What would having two admins accomplish, exactly?
the main goal is to promote a quality site and community as to gather more members and if elected I will seeto it that no voice goes unheard in regards to suggestions to improve our sanctuary. With me as second admin it will give arnox time to sit back and reflect before we both put our ideas together and vice versa
Actually that general idea makes some sense....
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What would having two admins accomplish, exactly?
the main goal is to promote a quality site and community as to gather more members and if elected I will seeto it that no voice goes unheard in regards to suggestions to improve our sanctuary. With me as second admin it will give arnox time to sit back and reflect before we both put our ideas together and vice versa
Actually that general idea makes some sense....
and so the baby raper for admin campaign begins...
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Arnox is the site owner; another admin' will not change the fact that he ultimately has absolute authority.
And if he truly does abide by this "council" system, and the OP wants to achieve some kind of balance via a wider distribution of personality types on the staff, then I think you'd have more chance of succeeding by getting a couple of users on the staff whose personalities don't cluster around Arnox's mindset. That might be slightly more palatable to Arnox than creating a co-Admin, but the chances of Arnox selecting someone whose personality is outside his comfort zone still appears to be near zero.
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If totse did not have multiple admins, it would not have survived (as long as it did). Jeff fucked off for months, almost years, at a time.
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If totse did not have multiple admins, it would not have survived (as long as it did). Jeff fucked off for months, almost years, at a time.
Very true, but I don't think Arnox is reaching the point of nervous breakdown just yet.
And if he does take a sabbatical he can always but Equanimity in charge.
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UNSTABLE MATTER 4 ADMIN
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If totse did not have multiple admins, it would not have survived (as long as it did). Jeff fucked off for months, almost years, at a time.
The difference here though is that I don't take any sort of massive breaks like that. I can't afford to.
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The difference here though is that I don't take any sort of massive breaks like that. I can't afford to.
If you need a break, throw me in the ring. We'll get things where they need to be.
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Equmin 2014!
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The difference here though is that I don't take any sort of massive breaks like that. I can't afford to.
If you need a break, throw me in the ring. We'll get things where they need to be.
Idio, you have a life. And this forum needs constant watching. I don't mind giving you admin at all but last time you said it just wasn't for you.
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Idio, you have a life. And this forum needs constant watching. I don't mind giving you admin at all but last time you said it just wasn't for you.
I'm sure you would like one too. That's why you have a staff too, for keeping tabs on the forum. It might do a little good for us to relax the grip slightly as well.
I'm not sure it would be for me for the long-term, but I think you could use a breather. I wouldn't offer if I wasn't sincere.
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It might do a little good for us to relax the grip slightly as well.
This ^^^^
my main complaint was that the rules 'as written' were sort of vague, yet arnox tried a 'heavy hand' approach in some cases, and completely let other cases slide.
we need less micromanaging and more benign neglect
remember the cp thing? if you want to be a hardass, go hard on that sort of thing, and lay off some of the bannings for 'spam' and stupid shit.
I never thought arnox was unlikeable per se, matter of fact I used to play AD&D and I suspect arnox did too, and when I joined I was looking forward to maybe discussing it with him
but then mormonism reared its ugly, dragon-dildo shaped head, and now here we are......
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matter of fact I used to play AD&D
LVL 68 Attention Deficit &Disorder champion of '86.
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It might do a little good for us to relax the grip slightly as well.
This ^^^^
my main complaint was that the rules 'as written' were sort of vague, yet arnox tried a 'heavy hand' approach in some cases, and completely let other cases slide.
1. We're not omniscient.
2. Things are decided on a case-by-case basis.
3. CP has already been cracked down on.
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1. We're not omniscient.
2. Things are decided on a case-by-case basis.
3. CP has already been cracked down on.
We're not, but that's where the report button really helps. One us usually responds pretty quickly when we see CP in the report subject.
As for using the report button because someone thinks somebody else is a "kidiot," well, I don't respond as quickly to that.
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Things are decided on a case-by-case basis
Yes, this is why I was bitching, you make these decisions on the fly and they are just not good decisions sometimes
CP has already been cracked down on.
You literally told me 'let it be' when I bitched about the daily cp spam and how I had to make sure I was alone in my house before even opening a thread so that my family would not think I was some sort of sicko; and it took like a week longer until you 'cracked down on it' by instituting the 20 posts rule.
I somehow have a feeling that if the cp spammer was a bit more determined and less lazy, you wouldn't be able to claim that you 'cracked down' on shit because it could have been 10 times worse than it was.
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As for using the report button because someone thinks somebody else is a "kidiot," well, I don't respond as quickly to that.
Thanks for the info. We'll make sure and take note that you've admitted you don't take defacement of the BBS seriously.
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As for using the report button because someone thinks somebody else is a "kidiot," well, I don't respond as quickly to that.
Thanks for the info. We'll make sure and take note that you've admitted you don't take defacement of the BBS seriously.
Simply "being a kidiot" is not against the rules. If it were, it would be enforced. Please use better descriptions if you want us to take those types of reports seriously.
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I somehow have a feeling that if the cp spammer was a bit more determined and less lazy, you wouldn't be able to claim that you 'cracked down' on shit because it could have been 10 times worse than it was.
WTH are you expecting of me exactly? It sounds like you think I WANTED the CP here.
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Simply "being a kidiot" is not against the rules. If it were, it would be enforced. Please use better descriptions if you want us to take those types of reports seriously.
You are telling us that if we 'report' a post, and the description isn't 'good enough', that you just don't even fucking bother looking into it?
Un-fucking-believeable
If this website was a passenger vehicle, the nutcases driving us are going to fucking kill us all. This is the equivalent of a warning light coming on, and the driver saying to himself 'well, it isn't telling me exactly what the problem is, so fuck it'
The one time I have ever reported a post, it was a cp post. In the description I put '......................', because it was obvious why I was reporting the post, it was fucking cp. I guess it got ignored because I need to 'use better descriptions if I want staff to take the report seriously'
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As for using the report button because someone thinks somebody else is a "kidiot," well, I don't respond as quickly to that.
Thanks for the info. We'll make sure and take note that you've admitted you don't take defacement of the BBS seriously.
Simply "being a kidiot" is not against the rules. If it were, it would be enforced. Please use better descriptions if you want us to take those types of reports seriously.
People are discussing a topic in the topical forums and some kidiot attention-whore sticks its head in just to tell the contributors there to fuck off and adds nothing to the thread, and you think that isn't against the rules and not worth the effort to address, especially after being reported by one of those contributors? Meanwhile, you're spewing this double-speak about wanting more content on the boards? Do you have any idea whatsoever how unqualified and unequipped to be a staff member you are right now? Your mentality is laughable, at best.
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I somehow have a feeling that if the cp spammer was a bit more determined and less lazy, you wouldn't be able to claim that you 'cracked down' on shit because it could have been 10 times worse than it was.
WTH are you expecting of me exactly? It sounds like you think I WANTED the CP here.
we already went over this, ad nauseum, and you said the same thing. No I am not implying you wanted the cp, but you took the position 'if we ignore it, they will get bored and go away'. You are all wishy washy on that, yet you are all firm and hardline against 'thanks', and you spend all this time rewriting the rules and trying to act like 'this is a new beginning' and other shit. I am not going to sit here and list a bunch of shit, we have had all these conversations before
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we already went over this, ad nauseum, and you said the same thing. No I am not implying you wanted the cp, but you took the position 'if we ignore it, they will get bored and go away'. You are all wishy washy on that, yet you are all firm and hardline against 'thanks', and you spend all this time rewriting the rules and trying to act like 'this is a new beginning' and other shit. I am not going to sit here and list a bunch of shit, we have had all these conversations before
What? You brought it up, not me. Don't start something and not expect to finish it.
And actually, we did ignore it (while of course removing it, instituting policies to make it harder for them to do it, and banning the offending users) and OMG, look what happened? It WENT AWAY. Exactly as I said.
As for Thanks, I don't know what's going on with that but I have some things that take precedence over it first right now.
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What? You brought it up, not me. Don't start something and not expect to finish it.
And actually, we did ignore it (while of course removing it, instituting policies to make it harder for them to do it, and banning the offending users) and OMG, look what happened? It WENT AWAY. Exactly as I said.
As for Thanks, I don't know what's going on with that but I have some things that take precedence over it first right now.
I didn't come here to argue or hash out stuff, I was just expounding on why I thought idio's post was relevant. You then posted to me as if addressing my post, so I replied.
Just because the cp went away doesn't mean you 'handled it'. I think you just got lucky and the person got bored or found something else to do.
I don't give a fuck about thanks, I was just using it as an example of something that you were very decisive about
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the person got bored or found something else to do.
That was the point. The person who posted that CP was thriving on the attention he was getting. When we cut that off, there was really no reason at all for him to post it anymore so he got bored and stopped. Do you see now?
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Arnox, you don't want to be an admin anymore and few could blame you. The mature thing is to handthe reins off to someone else who can hopefully do a 180 before its too late. This is apparent to literally everyone on this website, the only people who go "ya great job arnox with that irrelevant trivial shit" are people you made mods acting sychophantic which is not a quality you want on any webaite, let alone this one with a history you're wholly unaware of
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the person got bored or found something else to do.
That was the point. The person who posted that CP was thriving on the attention he was getting. When we cut that off, there was really no reason at all for him to post it anymore so he got bored and stopped. Do you see now?
Only took a month a hundreds of pictures of exploited xhildren being posted. Great fycking strategy holy shit that is the stupidest thing Ive ever heard. Thats like getting invaded and saying "its cool they'll realize this is a shitty country eventually and lose interest."
I cant even believe someone who'd think this way would be an admin on a website. Even fucking 4chan has a better policy than this, thats the quote of the day for sure
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Thats like getting invaded and saying "its cool they'll realize this is a shitty country eventually and lose interest."
Yeah because running an information and discussion website is completely and totally the same as running a country.
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Thats like getting invaded and saying "its cool they'll realize this is a shitty country eventually and lose interest."
Yeah because running an information and discussion website is completely and totally the same as running a country.
What a petty thing to take issue with. Speaks volumes to your "damage control" abilities
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the person got bored or found something else to do.
That was the point. The person who posted that CP was thriving on the attention he was getting. When we cut that off, there was really no reason at all for him to post it anymore so he got bored and stopped. Do you see now?
this is fucking retarded. you aren't dealing with a recalcitrant toddler, this was not about 'attention' or any other silly notion. you don't even really know if the person got bored, got in trouble, died of a stroke, or found jesus. you act like you saved the day or something, and that we are ungrateful pricks for questioning your actions and motives
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this is fucking retarded. you aren't dealing with a recalcitrant toddler, this was not about 'attention' or any other silly notion. you don't even really know if the person got bored, got in trouble, died of a stroke, or found jesus. you act like you saved the day or something, and that we are ungrateful pricks for questioning your actions and motives
Once again, forming the WORST conclusions possible.
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Once again, forming the WORST conclusions possible.
Once again, dismissing valid concerns by hand-waving them away
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Simply "being a kidiot" is not against the rules. If it were, it would be enforced. Please use better descriptions if you want us to take those types of reports seriously.
You are telling us that if we 'report' a post, and the description isn't 'good enough', that you just don't even fucking bother looking into it?
Un-fucking-believeable
If this website was a passenger vehicle, the nutcases driving us are going to fucking kill us all. This is the equivalent of a warning light coming on, and the driver saying to himself 'well, it isn't telling me exactly what the problem is, so fuck it'
The one time I have ever reported a post, it was a cp post. In the description I put '......................', because it was obvious why I was reporting the post, it was fucking cp. I guess it got ignored because I need to 'use better descriptions if I want staff to take the report seriously'
Try again. I just prioritize it differently. If someone reports something as CP, then I try to delete it as quickly as I can. If someone reports a kidiot and I am busy, then it will wait until I can get to it. The urgency is different, but I do still "fucking bother with it."
As for using the report button because someone thinks somebody else is a "kidiot," well, I don't respond as quickly to that.
Thanks for the info. We'll make sure and take note that you've admitted you don't take defacement of the BBS seriously.
Simply "being a kidiot" is not against the rules. If it were, it would be enforced. Please use better descriptions if you want us to take those types of reports seriously.
People are discussing a topic in the topical forums and some kidiot attention-whore sticks its head in just to tell the contributors there to fuck off and adds nothing to the thread, and you think that isn't against the rules and not worth the effort to address, especially after being reported by one of those contributors? Meanwhile, you're spewing this double-speak about wanting more content on the boards? Do you have any idea whatsoever how unqualified and unequipped to be a staff member you are right now? Your mentality is laughable, at best.
Simply being a kidiot is not against the rules. How you define being a kidiot is up to you, and use that word a lot. I still check out all open moderator reports when I log in, so if I notice some kind of blatant derailment or some other offense, then I will apply action as necessary.
You guys really do read the meaning you want to see into the posts we make.
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Try again. I just prioritize it differently. If someone reports something as CP, then I try to delete it as quickly as I can. If someone reports a kidiot and I am busy, then it will wait until I can get to it. The urgency is different, but I do still "fucking bother with it."
'fucking bother with' = 'take seriously'
If I were you, I wouldn't backpedal so hard, you might hurt yourself
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You guys really do read the meaning you want to see into the posts we make.
Or...and just hear me out here, for a minute....maybe you could try to be more articulate? I mean, from reading this:
Simply "being a kidiot" is not against the rules. If it were, it would be enforced. Please use better descriptions if you want us to take those types of reports seriously.
I get the distinct impression you are saying that the title of a report directly determines whether or not you will pay attention to it
Do you have arnox disease, aka 'its not me, its everyone else-itis'?
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Being a kidiot is the worst possible thing to be.
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If I were you, I wouldn't backpedal so hard, you might hurt yourself
That's how I ball.
No really, where did I say I wouldn't take it seriously? Two points I said were:
1) I don't respond as quickly to a "kidiot" report as I do a CP report.
2) The loosely defined "being a kidiot" is not against the rules.
See my subsequent explanations in my previous post.
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You guys really do read the meaning you want to see into the posts we make.
Or...and just hear me out here, for a minute....maybe you could try to be more articulate? I mean, from reading this:
Simply "being a kidiot" is not against the rules. If it were, it would be enforced. Please use better descriptions if you want us to take those types of reports seriously.
I get the distinct impression you are saying that the title of a report directly determines whether or not you will pay attention to it
Do you have arnox disease, aka 'its not me, its everyone else-itis'?
I'll simplify it for you.
I still check out all open moderator reports when I log in
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If I were you, I wouldn't backpedal so hard, you might hurt yourself
No really, where did I say I wouldn't take it seriously?
To be fair idio you said it right here
Simply "being a kidiot" is not against the rules. If it were, it would be enforced. Please use better descriptions if you want us to take those types of reports seriously.
I get where you're coming from but it is exactly what you said
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I'll simplify it for you.
I still check out all open moderator reports when I log in
:tup:
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If I were you, I wouldn't backpedal so hard, you might hurt yourself
No really, where did I say I wouldn't take it seriously?
To be fair idio you said it right here
Simply "being a kidiot" is not against the rules. If it were, it would be enforced. Please use better descriptions if you want us to take those types of reports seriously.
I get where you're coming from but it is exactly what you said
Touche. I appreciate you understanding what I was trying to say, even though I didn't say it correctly.
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Touche. I appreciate you understanding what I was trying to say, even though I didn't say it correctly.
^ Arnox you should pay attention to this THIS is the kind of attitude you need to have when someone points out something to you
instead of jumping to justify everything with bs excuses Idio showed understanding in how someone could be misinterpreting what he said and admitted he said it poorly
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Humility is either something you have or something you don't.
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Humility is either something you have or something you don't.
very VERY true
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instead of jumping to justify everything with bs excuses Idio showed understanding in how someone could be misinterpreting what he said and admitted he said it poorly
not only that, but he cleared the issue up with a concise statement:
I'll simplify it for you.
I still check out all open moderator reports when I log in
I can't help but be an argumentative prick, so don't take it personally idio....I really think you are doing a fine job, as always
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instead of jumping to justify everything with bs excuses Idio showed understanding in how someone could be misinterpreting what he said and admitted he said it poorly
not only that, but he cleared the issue up with a concise statement:
I'll simplify it for you.
I still check out all open moderator reports when I log in
I can't help but be an argumentative prick, so don't take it personally idio....I really think you are doing a fine job, as always
wow look how easy it is to not be an asshole to your user base and have them actually respect you guys
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This gets my :tup:.
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I think this calls for a group hug, and maybe even a reach-around or two.
*sneers*
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I think this calls for a group hug, and maybe even a reach-around or two.
*sneers*
I think, I wouldn't let you jerk me off.
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Who needs two admins when you've got six mods? 8)
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I may have to pass on that reach around as well
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I'm married. I'll take what I can get.
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He's got an iron grip from all the RETRACTED and from RETRACTED in a band. He will murder your dick.
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He's got an iron grip from all the RETRACTED and from RETRACTED in a band. He will murder your dick.
And you're DarkHunter, so there.
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He's got an iron grip from all the RETRACTED and from RETRACTED in a band. He will murder your dick.
And you're DarkHunter, so there.
darkhunter is bradley b?
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I've always respected Idio. I'd like to see him as admin.
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He's got an iron grip from all the RETRACTED and from RETRACTED in a band. He will murder your dick.
And you're DarkHunter, so there.
That's just not true.