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Carnality => Better Living Through Chemistry => Topic started by: dopeman420 on November 06, 2014, 09:45:59 pm

Title: silk road 2.0 shut down
Post by: dopeman420 on November 06, 2014, 09:45:59 pm
what do you think about this
Title: Re: silk road 2.0 shut down
Post by: RestStop on November 06, 2014, 11:47:43 pm
what do you think about this

Again? didn't the fbi/dea/alphabet boys already raid it once like a year ago?
Title: Re: silk road 2.0 shut down
Post by: John Smith on November 07, 2014, 12:08:42 am
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/e/e5/M.D.C._-_Millions_of_Dead_Cops.jpg)

I agree with the sentiment.

Again? didn't the fbi/dea/alphabet boys already raid it once like a year ago?

2.0, it's not the same site.
Title: Re: silk road 2.0 shut down
Post by: Gollumkip on November 07, 2014, 12:38:38 am
A bunch of other sites got taken down as well. New ones will spring up and the cycle will continue until the end of time.
Title: Re: silk road 2.0 shut down
Post by: Σ on November 07, 2014, 12:57:15 am
Im sure more places will spring up. Considering that they were on the 2.0 version of the site they were kinda destined to eventually have to move to a 3.0 version. Its just going to be a lot of cat and mouse on the deepweb from now on. Sites getting shut down and popping back up in a new reincarnation.

Still interested to see where it goes though.
Title: Re: silk road 2.0 shut down
Post by: John Smith on November 07, 2014, 01:11:57 am
OpenBazaar
Title: Re: silk road 2.0 shut down
Post by: manna on November 07, 2014, 01:13:49 am
If you've ever used anything but evo you're retarded

actually, scratch that, if you have to order drugs online you're a retarded bitch or live in the arctic circle
Title: Re: silk road 2.0 shut down
Post by: STD on November 09, 2014, 09:46:06 am
the darknet isn't just made of Silk Road Dot Com sites fortunately.
Title: Re: silk road 2.0 shut down
Post by: Prometheus on November 09, 2014, 09:52:08 am
It was what, 414 sites that got taken down. I'm really fucking concerned that they were got through a flaw in the cryptography. I know a lot of the experts are saying that that's not something to be worried about, but that's a lot of sites to axe all at once.
Title: Re: silk road 2.0 shut down
Post by: aldra on November 09, 2014, 09:58:02 am
It was what, 414 sites that got taken down. I'm really fucking concerned that they were got through a flaw in the cryptography. I know a lot of the experts are saying that that's not something to be worried about, but that's a lot of sites to axe all at once.

wait what, recently? or is that a running total?

because if it's the latter, a LOT of them are probably being counted separately even though they were all on Freedom Hosting.
Title: Re: silk road 2.0 shut down
Post by: BallsDeep69 on November 09, 2014, 09:58:46 am
What is Silk Road?
Title: Re: silk road 2.0 shut down
Post by: aldra on November 09, 2014, 10:07:26 am
*414 domains, not sites. onion domains can be generated for free, so I'm not sure how many actual hidden services were involved.

I've been looking for a list of the services and domains hit, but it doesn't look as though any of the organisations involved have posted them.
Title: Re: silk road 2.0 shut down
Post by: aldra on November 09, 2014, 10:16:42 am
http://www.forbes.com/sites/katevinton/2014/11/07/operation-onymous-dark-markets/

closest thing I could find; I think 27 sites have been confirmed so far.
Title: Re: silk road 2.0 shut down
Post by: stdio.h on November 09, 2014, 01:22:58 pm
Interesting comments from the (former) operator of Doxbin:

https://lists.torproject.org/pipermail/tor-dev/2014-November/007731.html

One hypothesis is that LE used DoS attacks to get the hidden service on a circuit of compromised nodes, then were able to deanonymize it somehow (traffic confirmation?). Can't quite wrap my head around this right now but I'll look into it more thoroughly after some rest.
Title: Re: silk road 2.0 shut down
Post by: Idiosyncrasy on November 09, 2014, 01:37:14 pm
http://www.intosanctuary.com/index.php?topic=4374.0

http://www.intosanctuary.com/index.php?topic=4272.0
Title: Re: silk road 2.0 shut down
Post by: aldra on November 09, 2014, 11:21:32 pm
Interesting comments from the (former) operator of Doxbin:

https://lists.torproject.org/pipermail/tor-dev/2014-November/007731.html

One hypothesis is that LE used DoS attacks to get the hidden service on a circuit of compromised nodes, then were able to deanonymize it somehow (traffic confirmation?). Can't quite wrap my head around this right now but I'll look into it more thoroughly after some rest.

thanks, interesting post.

a few messages down the chain he updates to say that the previous 'attack' was actually just someone crawling hidden services with a misconfigured script.... doesn't explain the traffic just before it went dark though. I'll keep reading along that track.

without a public LEO release, though (which will likely tell us nothing regardless) we can only really guess at what happened. how likely is it that they turned someone with access/connections to all 27 services, and that it wasn't a technical attack at all?
Title: Re: silk road 2.0 shut down
Post by: Daran on November 13, 2014, 12:11:38 pm
It's perhaps a good thing at the end of the day, only the most secured services will survive in the long run. The feds took down just 1/3 of the market this time, as opposed to the arguably 90% that silk road represented last year. All the SR2.0 vendors just moved to Agora anyway.