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Title: Hiding Finger Prints Without Gloves,Technique
Post by: GatewayX on November 03, 2014, 02:40:49 am
These are techniques to hide fingerprints where wearing gloves may arouse suspicion,attract unwanted attention and leave traceable evidence.Feel free to improve upon these methods.


1. Sanding - take a vibration sander with medium grit sand paper and slowly rub your fingers on the paper while moving the sander up and down.It will take time but will surely remove the prints

2. Beeswax - get some beeswax and melt it in a small container.allow the wax too cool a while,while it is the consistency of ketchup (not too liquid) use a small paintbrush and apply liberally to palm and fingers.Clean off excess and allow to dry.Apply  light coat of hair spray. Blistex lip balm works great

3. Brutal Skin Exfoliation -  get a container to fit both your hands(one liter of water),add warm water and  2 table spoons of sodium hydroxide or calcium oxide ,disolve and allow hands to soak for an hour.Remove and scrape hands with a blunt knife ,repeat as needed

4. Glue - Dust hands in baby powder .Apply a thin layer of superglue or spray adehesive to palm and fingers.Repeat

5. Fake print - Aqquire a plaster of paris mould of someones hands (pay hobo) Take cooking spray and apply light coat on mould.Get skin coloured liquid latex and apply 3 coats and allow to dry with 5 minutes intervals between each coat.Allow to cure and carefully remove and trim excess with sizzors.Take a spray adhesive and apply in side the copy of the mould and set hands carefully and firmly.Touch up with stage make up if necessary.You now have a hobos print.

Good luck
Title: Re: Hiding Finger Prints Without Gloves,Technique
Post by: -SpectraL on November 03, 2014, 02:59:11 am

It takes some practice, bit you can also hide fingerprints by using the sides and middles of your fingers and the both sides of the cups of your hands to handle, pick up and turn objects. It's the way you hold stuff that leaves the prints. If you touch and hold stuff without actually using the flats of the tips of your fingers, you leave no traces.
Title: Re: Hiding Finger Prints Without Gloves,Technique
Post by: DiStOrTiOn on November 03, 2014, 03:25:16 am
several layers of liquid bandage will adhere better than wax

or you could dip them in paint/plasti-dip
Title: Re: Hiding Finger Prints Without Gloves,Technique
Post by: General Fault on November 03, 2014, 08:25:24 pm
Low temp hot glue gun. I kind of like the liquid bandage, but you do need to make sure there's enough on there to hide your prints, and it'll take a while to get it all to dry.

Sanding does not work well. I've accidentally sanded through my fingertip while working on cleaning up some very small parts using a fine grit sanding block. The area where I drew blood still showed finger prints. Not recommended.
Title: Re: Hiding Finger Prints Without Gloves,Technique
Post by: Arnox on November 03, 2014, 08:33:20 pm
Hm. I've actually heard though that fingerprints aren't really reliable at all as evidence as much as people make them out to be.

Also, shouldn't one also watch what kind of shoes they wear as the imprint they make can be used to find what kind of shoe you have and then trace where they're sold in the area and etc.?

EDIT: So many typos I made...
Title: Re: Hiding Finger Prints Without Gloves,Technique
Post by: General Fault on November 03, 2014, 08:45:09 pm
Hm. I've actually heard though that fingerprints aren't really reliable at all as evidence as much as people make them out to be.

True in cases where your fingerprints are not on file somewhere. They can be used as evidence to link other cases though. Your parents ever get your fingerprints done at some event "to protect the children"? Yep. On file with the police.

Also, shouldn't one also watch what kind of shoes they wear as the imprint they make can be used to find what kind of shoe you have and then trace where they're sold in the area and etc.?

That's pretty much CSI: Television bullshit right there. Photos of prints can be taken, and if they find you with those shoes it can form another (minor) link. But no, they're not going to track you down just because you leave a shoe print somewhere. This is "soft evidence". They could also infer your approximate height and weight by stride length and if you leave any depressions in a soft surface. It just narrows down the possible people by another tiny bit.
Title: Re: Hiding Finger Prints Without Gloves,Technique
Post by: -SpectraL on November 03, 2014, 08:57:28 pm

Fingerprint verification uses a point system. Match so many points and it's considered a 100% match.
Title: Re: Hiding Finger Prints Without Gloves,Technique
Post by: Prometheus on November 03, 2014, 09:05:57 pm
Hm. I've actually heard though that fingerprints aren't really reliable at all as evidence as much as people make them out to be.

True in cases where your fingerprints are not on file somewhere. They can be used as evidence to link other cases though. Your parents ever get your fingerprints done at some event "to protect the children"? Yep. On file with the police.

Also, shouldn't one also watch what kind of shoes they wear as the imprint they make can be used to find what kind of shoe you have and then trace where they're sold in the area and etc.?

That's pretty much CSI: Television bullshit right there. Photos of prints can be taken, and if they find you with those shoes it can form another (minor) link. But no, they're not going to track you down just because you leave a shoe print somewhere. This is "soft evidence". They could also infer your approximate height and weight by stride length and if you leave any depressions in a soft surface. It just narrows down the possible people by another tiny bit.

Yeah, shoe prints are really only useful if you already have a suspect, and shoes to compare them to. That mainly holds true for tire tracks as well. Basically, if you see it on CSI, odds are good that it's either wrong, or very wrong.
Title: Re: Hiding Finger Prints Without Gloves,Technique
Post by: baby raper on November 05, 2014, 04:41:49 am

It takes some practice, bit you can also hide fingerprints by using the sides and middles of your fingers and the both sides of the cups of your hands to handle, pick up and turn objects. It's the way you hold stuff that leaves the prints. If you touch and hold stuff without actually using the flats of the tips of your fingers, you leave no traces.
when they print you at the pig station they get the blades of your hands now too. All the way to the wrist.
Title: Re: Hiding Finger Prints Without Gloves,Technique
Post by: aldra on November 05, 2014, 04:44:11 am

It takes some practice, bit you can also hide fingerprints by using the sides and middles of your fingers and the both sides of the cups of your hands to handle, pick up and turn objects. It's the way you hold stuff that leaves the prints. If you touch and hold stuff without actually using the flats of the tips of your fingers, you leave no traces.
when they print you at the pig station they get the blades of your hands now too. All the way to the wrist.

they certainly do

I believe it's specifically being done to try to catch and/or track forgers...
Title: Re: Hiding Finger Prints Without Gloves,Technique
Post by: baby raper on November 05, 2014, 04:47:41 am

It takes some practice, bit you can also hide fingerprints by using the sides and middles of your fingers and the both sides of the cups of your hands to handle, pick up and turn objects. It's the way you hold stuff that leaves the prints. If you touch and hold stuff without actually using the flats of the tips of your fingers, you leave no traces.
when they print you at the pig station they get the blades of your hands now too. All the way to the wrist.

they certainly do

I believe it's specifically being done to try to catch and/or track forgers...
yea ransom notes n shit also climbing thru windows. There getting smarter.
Title: Re: Hiding Finger Prints Without Gloves,Technique
Post by: mmmmmmmQuestions on November 05, 2014, 04:57:03 am
chop your fucking hands off ya dingus
Title: Re: Hiding Finger Prints Without Gloves,Technique
Post by: aldra on November 05, 2014, 04:59:37 am
chop your fucking hands off ya dingus

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Title: Re: Hiding Finger Prints Without Gloves,Technique
Post by: baby raper on November 05, 2014, 05:03:31 am
Better yet leave a cigarette butt you found at the homless shelter at  the crime scene or like I did one time leave a niggers prints on somthing. I robbed this pad while they were on vacation and cleaned it out then invited two nigs over to party..needless to say they invited EVERY nig in the whole hood over and I bounced.  That got pinned on one of em for sure.
Title: Re: Hiding Finger Prints Without Gloves,Technique
Post by: manna on November 06, 2014, 11:52:24 pm

It takes some practice, bit you can also hide fingerprints by using the sides and middles of your fingers and the both sides of the cups of your hands to handle, pick up and turn objects. It's the way you hold stuff that leaves the prints. If you touch and hold stuff without actually using the flats of the tips of your fingers, you leave no traces.

you are fucking retarded.
Title: Re: Hiding Finger Prints Without Gloves,Technique
Post by: manna on November 07, 2014, 01:41:50 am

It takes some practice, bit you can also hide fingerprints by using the sides and middles of your fingers and the both sides of the cups of your hands to handle, pick up and turn objects. It's the way you hold stuff that leaves the prints. If you touch and hold stuff without actually using the flats of the tips of your fingers, you leave no traces.

you are fucking retarded.

I told Arnox how incompetent he is so he warned me for this comment. What thick and non-petty skin he must have!

Guess I needed to articulate for the short bus folk that fingerprints include all features of the hand, including palm and "sides" and trying to pick stuff up with your cuticles/fingernails is a lot harder than wearing fucking gloves or putting wax on your fingers
Title: Re: Hiding Finger Prints Without Gloves,Technique
Post by: RisiR on November 07, 2014, 01:49:05 am
One time when the cops took my finger prints and profiled me -the cops and I were in the same room - they asked for any tattoos and and shit and then they discussed what kind of voice I have "He's not that deep" "Yea, but..." so I interupted them and said "Pleasant". They heh'd and then he put in normal like a true piece of shit.
Title: Re: Hiding Finger Prints Without Gloves,Technique
Post by: manna on November 07, 2014, 01:58:57 am
One time when the cops took my finger prints and profiled me -the cops and I were in the same room - they asked for any tattoos and and shit and then they discussed what kind of voice I have "He's not that deep" "Yea, but..." so I interupted them and said "Pleasant". They heh'd and then he put in normal like a true piece of shit.

lol

always give them shit while they stripsearch you about that being the reason they got into the job in the first place. While you're buck naked telling them they must love this part of the job makes them embarrassed and unlikely to check deeply, you can just bend over slightly, lift your feet up a bit and you're good, could have shit stashed in your hair or wherever and they wouldn't know
Title: Re: Hiding Finger Prints Without Gloves,Technique
Post by: RisiR on November 07, 2014, 02:06:57 am
Did you ever have to squat over a mirror?
Title: Re: Hiding Finger Prints Without Gloves,Technique
Post by: manna on November 07, 2014, 02:11:53 am
Did you ever have to squat over a mirror?

No, that sounds degrading, you just bend over, lift your feet up and run your fingers through your hair and open your mouth
Title: Re: Hiding Finger Prints Without Gloves,Technique
Post by: aldra on November 07, 2014, 02:14:33 am
isn't that what they make you do getting checked into prison? squat and cough?

I can't remember if I heard that from a documentary or a movie.
Title: Re: Hiding Finger Prints Without Gloves,Technique
Post by: RisiR on November 07, 2014, 02:17:57 am
It sure is degrading. It's also pretty informative, though. They should add another mirror on the ceiling so you can look at your asshole infinitely often in the right angle.
Title: Re: Hiding Finger Prints Without Gloves,Technique
Post by: manna on November 07, 2014, 02:22:37 am
It sure is degrading. It's also pretty informative, though. They should add another mirror on the ceiling so you can look at your asshole infinitely often in the right angle.

I was with a girl before who asked a cop "did you ever put up another mirror ( one of those fake glass ones like off TV) on the other wall and try to see into infinity" while he was walking into a pizza place and he said "what are you?" and she said "I'm an earthling" and then a brief exchange and we were with like 6 other people who didn't want her acting weird around a cop and she kinda realized this and we left.

Sounds crazy typing it out, lol
Title: Re: Hiding Finger Prints Without Gloves,Technique
Post by: RisiR on November 07, 2014, 02:24:48 am
Whoa...
Title: Re: Hiding Finger Prints Without Gloves,Technique
Post by: manna on November 07, 2014, 02:29:47 am
ya I could go on about her for a while but you probably wouldn't believe me

anyways, have you ever seen one of those fancy armchair seats with the black bottom that you sit on that are supposed to prevent you from taking in big metal objects in your ass? They don't even work properly, you can take in lighters until the cows come home so you've pretty much got to be carrying a bazooka in there to get caught
Title: Re: Hiding Finger Prints Without Gloves,Technique
Post by: RisiR on November 07, 2014, 02:32:32 am
Quote
"did you ever put up another mirror ( one of those fake glass ones like off TV) on the other wall and try to see into infinity"
Did she ever figure this out?

You'd probably only see a green tint because of how light works.
Title: Re: Hiding Finger Prints Without Gloves,Technique
Post by: manna on November 07, 2014, 02:34:09 am
Quote
"did you ever put up another mirror ( one of those fake glass ones like off TV) on the other wall and try to see into infinity"
Did she ever figure this out?

You'd probably only see a green tint because of how light works.

I dunno, she's pretty smart though, I haven't seen her in like 5 years, maybe more
Title: Re: Hiding Finger Prints Without Gloves,Technique
Post by: RisiR on November 07, 2014, 02:35:24 am
ya I could go on about her for a while but you probably wouldn't believe me

anyways, have you ever seen one of those fancy armchair seats with the black bottom that you sit on that are supposed to prevent you from taking in big metal objects in your ass? They don't even work properly, you can take in lighters until the cows come home so you've pretty much got to be carrying a bazooka in there to get caught
What? No. How's that supposed to work? You sit down and shank yourself with your toothbrush buttknife?? Fucking cops, man.
Title: Re: Hiding Finger Prints Without Gloves,Technique
Post by: -SpectraL on November 07, 2014, 03:05:38 am

Guess I needed to articulate for the short bus folk that fingerprints include all features of the hand, including palm and "sides" and trying to pick stuff up with your cuticles/fingernails is a lot harder than wearing fucking gloves or putting wax on your fingers

Well then, the short-bus would be you. Up until the late '80's, nothing but finger prints were taken by authorities. This means that all those billions of sets of prints, if they have not been updated, do not include edge-prints or full palm prints at all. Corrections officers didn't take anything but normal fingerprints either. Now, if you were printed in the '90's, then you're fucked, but that's a minority, really. It's not all just about you, kid.

Title: Re: Hiding Finger Prints Without Gloves,Technique
Post by: manna on November 07, 2014, 03:10:07 am
Up until the late '80's, nothing but finger prints were taken by authorities.

What year do you think it is old man? Do you genuinely believe you were "sinking kidiots" in 1990 and how many years ago do you think it was? How many other 40+ people do you think are in need of that "tidbit" and telling someone who just posted about it that it's alright to do that because if it happened 20-30 years ago you might be alright?

That's a dangerously stupid thing to say, really
Title: Re: Hiding Finger Prints Without Gloves,Technique
Post by: -SpectraL on November 07, 2014, 03:11:47 am
Up until the late '80's, nothing but finger prints were taken by authorities.

What year do you think it is old man? Do you genuinely believe you were "sinking kidiots" in 1990 and how many years ago do you think it was? How many other 40+ people do you think are in need of that "tidbit" and telling someone who just posted about it that it's alright to do that because if it happened 20-30 years ago you might be alright?

That's a dangerously stupid thing to say, really

The majority of people were printed before 1990, kid.
Title: Re: Hiding Finger Prints Without Gloves,Technique
Post by: manna on November 07, 2014, 03:15:53 am
Up until the late '80's, nothing but finger prints were taken by authorities.

What year do you think it is old man? Do you genuinely believe you were "sinking kidiots" in 1990 and how many years ago do you think it was? How many other 40+ people do you think are in need of that "tidbit" and telling someone who just posted about it that it's alright to do that because if it happened 20-30 years ago you might be alright?

That's a dangerously stupid thing to say, really

The majority of people were printed before 1990, kid.

oh my god
Title: Re: Hiding Finger Prints Without Gloves,Technique
Post by: baby raper on November 07, 2014, 03:33:54 am
Up until the late '80's, nothing but finger prints were taken by authorities.

What year do you think it is old man? Do you genuinely believe you were "sinking kidiots" in 1990 and how many years ago do you think it was? How many other 40+ people do you think are in need of that "tidbit" and telling someone who just posted about it that it's alright to do that because if it happened 20-30 years ago you might be alright?

That's a dangerously stupid thing to say, really

The majority of people were printed before 1990, kid.



you didnt even know that they print the blades of your hand spectroll.
Title: Re: Hiding Finger Prints Without Gloves,Technique
Post by: RisiR on November 07, 2014, 03:35:37 am
They even take ear prints. No shit.  Welcome to the future.
Title: Re: Hiding Finger Prints Without Gloves,Technique
Post by: baby raper on November 07, 2014, 03:39:56 am
They even take ear prints. No shit.  Welcome to the future.
they can see your facial structure thru a skimask too u gotta put cotton balls in it to make lumps
Title: Re: Hiding Finger Prints Without Gloves,Technique
Post by: -SpectraL on November 07, 2014, 03:48:31 am
They even take ear prints. No shit.  Welcome to the future.

Do they take nose prints, too? What all prints do they take these days??
Title: Re: Hiding Finger Prints Without Gloves,Technique
Post by: RisiR on November 07, 2014, 03:52:16 am
They even take ear prints. No shit.  Welcome to the future.

Do they take nose prints, too? What all prints do they take these days??
I'm serious, though.

Quote
Criminals beware -- don't leave earprints. They are as useful to the police as finger prints. A burglar in Germany made the mistake of pressing his ear to front doors to check if anyone was home. The unique prints have allowed the police to pin 96 burglaries on him.

http://www.spiegel.de/international/zeitgeist/german-police-identify-burglar-by-his-earprints-a-830659.html
Title: Re: Hiding Finger Prints Without Gloves,Technique
Post by: mmmmmmmQuestions on November 08, 2014, 05:52:56 am
isn't that what they make you do getting checked into prison? squat and cough?

I can't remember if I heard that from a documentary or a movie.


this is the reason I pleaded for a year and a day sentence
Title: Re: Hiding Finger Prints Without Gloves,Technique
Post by: Autodidact on November 08, 2014, 06:01:45 am
I was arrested earlier in the year and just got hands and fingers scanned by a huge machine.
Title: Re: Hiding Finger Prints Without Gloves,Technique
Post by: General Fault on November 08, 2014, 06:15:59 am
Criminals beware -- don't leave earprints. They are as useful to the police as finger prints. A burglar in Germany made the mistake of pressing his ear to front doors to check if anyone was home. The unique prints have allowed the police to pin 96 burglaries on him.

Yes, but as I stated earlier, this was merely a method to link the different burglaries together. They obviously don't have his ear in a database. But they were able to pull prints from each crime scene and match them up.
Title: Re: Hiding Finger Prints Without Gloves,Technique
Post by: RisiR on November 09, 2014, 01:52:21 pm
Criminals beware -- don't leave earprints. They are as useful to the police as finger prints. A burglar in Germany made the mistake of pressing his ear to front doors to check if anyone was home. The unique prints have allowed the police to pin 96 burglaries on him.

Yes, but as I stated earlier, this was merely a method to link the different burglaries together. They obviously don't have his ear in a database. But they were able to pull prints from each crime scene and match them up.
Well, I know for a fact that they look for ear prints on doors here in Germany and do have databases. The police in Hamburg has a database of over 1000 individual earprints.

I can give you sources but they are all in German.
Title: Re: Hiding Finger Prints Without Gloves,Technique
Post by: -SpectraL on November 09, 2014, 02:00:00 pm

Imagine being lucky enough to have Adermatoglyphia?


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Title: Re: Hiding Finger Prints Without Gloves,Technique
Post by: Tupac Shakur on November 09, 2014, 05:48:16 pm
cut off your fingers.
winrar
Title: Re: Hiding Finger Prints Without Gloves,Technique
Post by: starvingniglet on November 09, 2014, 05:59:41 pm
cut off your fingers.
winrar

If you did this, how would you look at cp, you fucking piece of shit?
Title: Re: Hiding Finger Prints Without Gloves,Technique
Post by: Tupac Shakur on November 09, 2014, 06:01:33 pm
cut off your fingers.
winrar

If you did this, how would you look at cp, you fucking piece of shit?

but.. i dont..  :o
Title: Re: Hiding Finger Prints Without Gloves,Technique
Post by: starvingniglet on November 09, 2014, 06:09:57 pm
but.. i dont..  :o

I read you talking about it, in your own words, more than once, so don't try to bullshit me
Title: Re: Hiding Finger Prints Without Gloves,Technique
Post by: baby raper on November 09, 2014, 06:54:48 pm
but.. i dont..  :o

I read you talking about it, in your own words, more than once, so don't try to bullshit me
dont try to bullshit this community either we know who you are.
Title: Re: Hiding Finger Prints Without Gloves,Technique
Post by: Tupac Shakur on November 09, 2014, 06:55:22 pm
but.. i dont..  :o

I read you talking about it, in your own words, more than once, so don't try to bullshit me

actually I stated I got banned 4chan for posting a jailbait model who I assumed was an adult. get rekt
Title: Re: Hiding Finger Prints Without Gloves,Technique
Post by: starvingniglet on November 09, 2014, 06:56:55 pm
actually I stated I got banned 4chan for posting a jailbait model who I assumed was an adult. get rekt

no, you said 'cp', I saw it.  at that one site that is now defunct, what was it called?  oh yeh, avoyel

you need fucking killed
Title: Re: Hiding Finger Prints Without Gloves,Technique
Post by: starvingniglet on November 09, 2014, 06:57:40 pm
dont try to bullshit this community either we know who you are.

sorry, I'll stop
Title: Re: Hiding Finger Prints Without Gloves,Technique
Post by: baby raper on November 09, 2014, 06:59:45 pm
This thread needs moar cp.
Title: Re: Hiding Finger Prints Without Gloves,Technique
Post by: joe camel on November 09, 2014, 07:04:32 pm
cut off your fingers.
winrar

If you did this, how would you look at cp, you fucking piece of shit?

but.. i dont..  :o

Yes u do
Title: Re: Hiding Finger Prints Without Gloves,Technique
Post by: Tupac Shakur on November 09, 2014, 09:50:36 pm
fine ill admit it.
i look at civil protection
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Title: Re: Hiding Finger Prints Without Gloves,Technique
Post by: BallsDeep69 on November 09, 2014, 09:53:42 pm
fine ill admit it.
i look at civil protection
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GTFO
Title: Re: Hiding Finger Prints Without Gloves,Technique
Post by: bling bling on November 09, 2014, 10:23:36 pm
Hm. I've actually heard though that fingerprints aren't really reliable at all as evidence as much as people make them out to be.

Also, shouldn't one also watch what kind of shoes they wear as the imprint they make can be used to find what kind of shoe you have and then trace where they're sold in the area and etc.?

EDIT: So many typos I made...

arnox r u plannin a murder????