Title: Re: So you wanna act like a grown man, huh?!?!
Post by: kroz on October 24, 2014, 01:17:55 am
fucking niggers, I may not be a great father, but I would never do that to my child
he's probably going to keep acting like a "grown man" and do that to his child. endless cycle of violence
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Post by: aldra on October 24, 2014, 01:26:34 am
he gave him a mr. burns haircut, how the fuck is that a cycle of violence
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Post by: kroz on October 24, 2014, 01:34:37 am
what did the kid do?
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Post by: Nigger Nostrils on October 24, 2014, 01:40:30 am
Future rape ape in training
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Post by: kroz on October 24, 2014, 01:42:01 am
^^^that's what im talking about endless cycle of violence.. aldra just can't keep his cocksucker shut
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Post by: Iudicium Infernalum on October 24, 2014, 01:53:23 am
Niggers gonna' nig.
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Post by: Max Headroom on October 24, 2014, 11:35:24 am
Man recycling old ass articles like a diplomat. But I've seen this, that's class A top tier parenting right there.
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Post by: Michael Myers on October 24, 2014, 01:57:51 pm
If my kids gon' act like grown-ups, they'll be receiving the same treatment.
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Post by: equanimity on October 24, 2014, 03:18:36 pm
Not to make sweeping generalizations, but I've noticed that a few black moms are really good at embarrassing their kids as punishment lol. In 7th grade we had this class that was home ec one semester and shop the second, and one day in the shop half of class I walked in and saw this lady sitting at our table. Sat down, said hi, and she introduced herself to me as my friend's mom. Then she went on to say that she was spending the entire day following her son around, "to find out why he's doing so poorly."
He had his face buried in his hands and I felt so bad for him. That's what happens though, I guess. Do well in school or you'll be punished haha.
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Post by: -SpectraL on October 24, 2014, 04:58:43 pm
The kid can just wear a cool hat.
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Post by: Michael Myers on October 24, 2014, 09:04:04 pm
Not to make sweeping generalizations, but I've noticed that a few black moms are really good at embarrassing their kids as punishment lol. In 7th grade we had this class that was home ec one semester and shop the second, and one day in the shop half of class I walked in and saw this lady sitting at our table. Sat down, said hi, and she introduced herself to me as my friend's mom. Then she went on to say that she was spending the entire day following her son around, "to find out why he's doing so poorly."
He had his face buried in his hands and I felt so bad for him. That's what happens though, I guess. Do well in school or you'll be punished haha.
They're being taught discipline. It's a good thing, really. Maybe that's why they take out their frustrations on white people in those knockout games.
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Post by: Lanny on October 24, 2014, 09:24:01 pm
Apparently there's some actual scholarship on like "scarlet letter" punishments that are based on shaming criminals into behaving appropriately but I've always had my doubts. Like even if it really is effective I feel like there's some essential right of humans to dignity that's being violated by that kind of punishment. It's always been kind of an awkward subject for me because I'm pretty well committed to a consequentialist framework of justice but in this situation, the deprivation of humans of dignity, I have a really hard time saying the ends justify the means.
Like at some point I'm willing to say sure, maybe stripping one person of their dignity is worth it if it's going to save X other people from certain death or something. But short of that, up to the point of a human life hanging in the balance and maybe even further, I have this intuition that preserving human dignity is really worth something and that we have an obligation to preserve it.
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Post by: Ragus on October 24, 2014, 10:50:34 pm
in my highschool you could. but im from texas.. and we all wear cowboy hats
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Post by: Rook on October 25, 2014, 03:14:03 am
I feel that discipline is essential to cultivating maturity in a child. It's hard for me to judge what a lot of parents do with their kids, considering I don't have any. Kids are like people, their all different.. and their being raised in a society much different than their parents.. it's the paradox of growing and reproducing, and why parenting is so hard in the first place. I'd like to think that if you truly take to the responsibility of raising your children, teach them early right from wrong, about the truths of the world and that their are bad people.. assholes.. and morons.. what to expect and how to deal.. to use manners.. to be respectable.. Then maybe, your child might grow up to a considerate, intelligent, and capable individual. I feel that most parents methods of teaching is "You need to listen to me and do as I say".. I think it should be "Let me show you what I know, give you a heads up on somethings, and I have confidence you can do well without my constant input.. but I'm always here if you need some advice". Sure there are moments when a parent should get involved.. but constantly looking over your child's shoulder only instills lack of confidence and defiance.
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Post by: -SpectraL on October 25, 2014, 03:18:22 am
The best way is to just kick your kid's ass all over the room when they fuck up. Keeps it simple.
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Post by: Lanny on October 25, 2014, 04:25:36 am
I saw the last reply was from spectral in the last updated list and I thought I was going to open this thread and see something at least mildly insightful. Like probably dumb but at least well thought out. I was clearly expecting too much.
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Post by: mmmmmmmQuestions on October 25, 2014, 05:17:11 am
if my dad had done this to me, I would have most likely just shaved the rest of it off later on, to spite him. That or I'd tell him that since I got the new haircut all the boys at school have been flirting with me.
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Post by: constantinople on October 25, 2014, 06:02:58 am
I saw the last reply was from spectral in the last updated list and I thought I was going to open this thread and see something at least mildly insightful. Like probably dumb but at least well thought out. I was clearly expecting too much.
All of -SpectraL's children are spiraling at the lower end of middle class, heading toward late-life poverty.
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Post by: -SpectraL on October 25, 2014, 01:04:25 pm
I saw the last reply was from spectral in the last updated list and I thought I was going to open this thread and see something at least mildly insightful. Like probably dumb but at least well thought out. I was clearly expecting too much.
Corporal punishment is the solution. That's why I brought it up. Enough with the hand-holding and pampering. Pain can be a huge motivator.
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Post by: constantinople on October 25, 2014, 01:49:32 pm
I saw the last reply was from spectral in the last updated list and I thought I was going to open this thread and see something at least mildly insightful. Like probably dumb but at least well thought out. I was clearly expecting too much.
Corporal punishment is the solution. That's why I brought it up. Enough with the hand-holding and pampering. Pain can be a huge motivator.
Actually, it's a pretty shitty motivator. One of the worst in fact. Read a fucking book if you want to control people repeatedly beating them is not how you do it.
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Post by: starvingniglet on October 25, 2014, 03:42:15 pm
Actually, it's a pretty shitty motivator. One of the worst in fact. Read a fucking book if you want to control people repeatedly beating them is not how you do it.
beating people with a book works best of all.
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Post by: equanimity on October 25, 2014, 03:58:34 pm
My psychology textbook insisted that hitting your kids is not the best way to get them to grow into well-adjusted adults. I agree, but it was kind of funny anyway.
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Post by: starvingniglet on October 25, 2014, 04:27:06 pm
My psychology textbook insisted that hitting your kids is not the best way to get them to grow into well-adjusted adults. I agree, but it was kind of funny anyway.
What if your psychology textbook is wrong?
http://youtu.be/IwvrGHsjD7g
http://youtu.be/ZDeyTNFceqo
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Post by: Nigger Nostrils on October 25, 2014, 05:22:30 pm
The best discipline for a niglet is throwing them in an alligator pit.
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Post by: -SpectraL on October 25, 2014, 06:15:03 pm
I saw the last reply was from spectral in the last updated list and I thought I was going to open this thread and see something at least mildly insightful. Like probably dumb but at least well thought out. I was clearly expecting too much.
Corporal punishment is the solution. That's why I brought it up. Enough with the hand-holding and pampering. Pain can be a huge motivator.
Actually, it's a pretty shitty motivator. One of the worst in fact. Read a fucking book if you want to control people repeatedly beating them is not how you do it.
Not at all. Kids fear and respect a father who kicks their ass in when they do wrong. Deep down, they know it's for their own good, and the result is they eventually avoid getting their ass kicked by doing the right things instead of the wrong things. Pampering a child through education and tolerance leaves an easy way out for the kid, and in not handing out physical punishment, by being a bleeding heart liberal, you leave the kid wide open to the harsh realities of life. You have to be cruel to be kind. The kid turns out way better at the end of the road.
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Post by: Lanny on October 25, 2014, 06:19:32 pm
See, you say that but all you've done is made assertions with no evidence. Like if I said "only liberals cared about human life", and someone else came along and pointed out that no, other people care too, and I just repeated my claim. That's what you're doing spectral, just repeating the same claim you started with.
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Post by: Rocklin on October 25, 2014, 06:30:33 pm
When I was little and I did something wrong my father would hit me. I turned out better then other kids and I know what's right and what's wrong because my father brought me up like his father (my grandfather) did.
I think todays youth lack respect and knowledge because the parents in their life never took the appropriate actions because for what schools and the media chooses to portray as "Proper" parenting.
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Post by: mmmmmmmQuestions on October 25, 2014, 06:40:22 pm
my dad beat me with a steel chair and now I'm a piece of shit. argument diffused
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Post by: -SpectraL on October 25, 2014, 07:05:17 pm
my dad beat me with a steel chair and now I'm a piece of shit. argument diffused
You were going to be a piece of shit whether your dad beat you or not. You're just a part of the determined minority that is intent on self abandonment. You won't quit until you've totally destroyed yourself, and most likely others in the process. You're a hard case.
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Post by: equanimity on October 25, 2014, 07:12:21 pm
When I was little and I did something wrong my father would hit me. I turned out better then other kids and I know what's right and what's wrong because my father brought me up like his father (my grandfather) did.
I think todays youth lack respect and knowledge because the parents in their life never took the appropriate actions because for what schools and the media chooses to portray as "Proper" parenting.
Hitting your kids isn't "wrong", but there are other disciplinary methods that work just as well. It's possible to be an authoritative parent without hitting your children, though my friends that were hit did turn out well for the most part.
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Post by: -SpectraL on October 25, 2014, 07:15:05 pm
Hit kids. Beat them. Make them cry. It's the only workable answer.
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Post by: Slave of the Beast on October 25, 2014, 07:21:33 pm
Violence is a precision tool and should only be wielded in the correct circumstances. Using it as a norm indicates a chronic lack of authority as a parent.
As for the father/son in the OP... 'dat nigga' in the chair getting his head shaved will one day become a man, and will be a man when his father is old and infirm. Then there will be a reckoning for the father or an abandonment and he will be left to rot alone and uncared for, unless he's lucky.
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Post by: -SpectraL on October 25, 2014, 07:26:55 pm
Personally, I'd rather get a good beating than turn out looking like Sherman Hemsley.
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Post by: mmmmmmmQuestions on October 25, 2014, 07:34:04 pm
my dad beat me with a steel chair and now I'm a piece of shit. argument diffused
You were going to be a piece of shit whether your dad beat you or not. You're just a part of the determined minority that is intent on self abandonment. You won't quit until you've totally destroyed yourself, and most likely others in the process. You're a hard case.
Are you saying I didn't/don't have a choice in the matter? My brain is the only one I have, you know? I guess to suggest that beating me up wouldn't have had a positive effect on me either way, would also seem to suggest that we are mostly hardwired from the get-go and any attempts at discipline, regardless of the nature, will only have a minimal impact on our overall upbringing and eventual personality, lifestyle, etc. I'm sure there's no lack of evidence either way to ensure that discipline, be it physical, emotional, verbal, or non-existent, ultimately results in a myriad of types of people who fall into each and every category possible... physically abused - grew up to make all the honor rolls and graduated with honors, becomes successful, etc. or physically abused - grew up to get into drugs and other heathen activities and pissed life away, or physically abused - grew up to finish H.S. and work a shitty construction job for many years, 2 divorces and a few assault charges. .... and so on and so forth.
I know you know what I'm saying. Perhaps you could reveal a statistic that correlates hitting your child and eventual success. I would tend to think that it wouldn't do much more than make the kid hate authority, or absolutely respect it. Both are scary but the latter is far scarier. You have a kid who believes everything he hears and is afraid to question things. No bueno.
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Post by: Slave of the Beast on October 25, 2014, 08:13:16 pm
Personally, I'd rather get a good beating than turn out looking like Sherman Hemsley.
Oh I agree, I'm certain the kid would too. Look at his eyes. That's a cold hate, the kind that can burn beneath the surface for 40 years. Until its time to select which old peoples' home your father is going to be sent to...
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Post by: Nigger Nostrils on October 25, 2014, 11:05:33 pm
Personally, I'd rather get a good beating than turn out looking like Sherman Hemsley.
Oh I agree, I'm certain the kid would too. Look at his eyes. That's a cold hate, the kind that can burn beneath the surface for 40 years. Until its time to select which old peoples' home your father is going to be sent to...
To be fair, pretty much all niggers have those cold dead eyes.
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Post by: Rocklin on October 25, 2014, 11:16:21 pm
Hitting your kids isn't "wrong", but there are other disciplinary methods that work just as well. It's possible to be an authoritative parent without hitting your children, though my friends that were hit did turn out well for the most part.
haha I remember getting Pimp slapped because I took a sip of my dads beer when I was 6. tell me if that's appropriate or not?.
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Post by: Lanny on October 25, 2014, 11:52:44 pm
It doesn't seem appropriate, a sip of beer isn't going to kill a child nor is it worth hitting anyone over.
What does hitting a kid teach? Don't do something because it could lead to you getting hurt? That's not teaching ethics, that's teaching selfishness. It's dumb anyway because most kids will be physically stronger than their parents before they leave home. What happens when your kid starts hitting you? Are they teaching you a lesson now?
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Post by: -SpectraL on October 26, 2014, 02:06:37 am
.. most kids will be physically stronger than their parents before they leave home. What happens when your kid starts hitting you? Are they teaching you a lesson now?
Then you just start using a baseball bat on them.
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Post by: equanimity on October 26, 2014, 02:31:03 am
haha I remember getting Pimp slapped because I took a sip of my dads beer when I was 6. tell me if that's appropriate or not?.
No, not appropriate imo...
Kids are naturally curious, and "pimp slaps" fucking hurt lol :(
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Post by: constantinople on October 26, 2014, 05:08:42 am
If you have to physically dominate a child through violence in order to assert your authority you are probably a very ignorant, and generally dumb person.
"Violence is the last refuge of the incompetent." - Isaac Asimov
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Post by: mmmmmmmQuestions on October 26, 2014, 05:52:46 am
does spectral always pontificate and disregard others' opinions and questions regarding the topic at hand?
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Post by: Slave of the Beast on October 26, 2014, 03:28:46 pm
They're only a few instances I can think of, off hand, where I'd consider using force. This would include doing something very dangerous when they've been told not to e.g. running into the road. Some children simply are too young to be reasoned with meaningfully; a slap on the arse is the most effective way of communicating that running into the road is very bad. I'd also include the child using violence against others as reason for a slap on the arse. The purpose in both instances is to ensure the child knows that physical actions can have serious physical consequences. Force is not required, unexpected physical shock is what is important; physically bruising your child is abusive, not instructive.
You can always wait for them to figure it out for themselves, but I'd rather my kid didn't get killed in the process of learning that running into the road without looking is an exceptionally stupid idea.
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Post by: starvingniglet on October 26, 2014, 03:44:04 pm
If you have to physically dominate a child through violence in order to assert your authority you are probably a very ignorant, and generally dumb person.
"Violence is the last refuge of the incompetent." - Isaac Asimov
constantinople is basically saying in this thread: 'Instead of beating your child like a savage, just read to them instead'.....
as if there are only two extremes in parenting, and he knows the right way, while everyone else are just a bunch of violent rubes.
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Post by: Michael Myers on October 26, 2014, 05:09:41 pm
You gotta beat the shit out of your kids every once in a while, otherwise if you are too nice to them, they will be disrespectful and try to cross every line. It'll be too late if you try to correct them in their teens. Which is why I'm gonna beat the shit out of my kids so I don't have to deal with their teenage bullshit and "SHUT UP, DAD!" kinda shit.
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Post by: RestStop on October 26, 2014, 10:12:18 pm
Dad is a nigger dad. I don't say this because he's black, anyone who writes "nigga" in a facebook post is obviously the lower form of a black person, especially if he's old enough to have a son that age.
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Post by: VoPo on October 26, 2014, 10:14:52 pm
kids needs to learn the hard way.
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Post by: WS on October 27, 2014, 01:40:21 pm
my dad beat me with a steel chair and now I'm a piece of shit. argument diffused
My dad is YOU.
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Post by: -SpectraL on October 27, 2014, 01:59:15 pm
When I went to school in the '60's, even the teachers had the authority to beat you. I can remember many students getting the leather strap treatment, kneeling in the corner on rice, getting their hair pulled and then being thrown around, getting grabbed by the neck, even punched. Teachers were usually big, too, even the females. When you went to school in the '60's, they owned you every minute you were there and could beat you for no reason at all and you'd have to suck it up and shut the fuck up or you'd just get it again. Parents could legally beat you to a pulp as well, and the fathers often encouraged the teachers to keep you in line while they worked.
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Post by: Lanny on October 27, 2014, 03:11:14 pm
I think you've confusing the 60s with a concentration camp old man
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Post by: equanimity on October 27, 2014, 03:12:25 pm
When I went to school in the '60's, even the teachers had the authority to beat you. I can remember many students getting the leather strap treatment, kneeling in the corner on rice, getting their hair pulled and then being thrown around, getting grabbed by the neck, even punched. Teachers were usually big, too, even the females. When you went to school in the '60's, they owned you every minute you were there and could beat you for no reason at all and you'd have to suck it up and shut the fuck up or you'd just get it again. Parents could legally beat you to a pulp as well, and the fathers often encouraged the teachers to keep you in line while they worked.
Yeah my parents both went to Catholic schools and it wasn't that bad lol.
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Post by: starvingniglet on October 27, 2014, 03:12:34 pm
I went to school in the 80's and there were teachers who now and then would hit kids, and it wasn't really as big a deal as you would think it would be....
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Post by: -SpectraL on October 27, 2014, 03:18:08 pm
The Principal in my school would grab the person by the hair and literally drag them down the hall to his office, where a good beating would commence if you even looked at him wrong. The Gym teacher, who we called "Baboon", because he actually looked like a huge baboon, was really big on beating up unruly students as well, slapping them around at random and making death threats. This was business as usual back in the '60's. Nothing like today. Today, kids are pampered.
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Post by: Lanny on October 27, 2014, 03:25:56 pm
When I was in school and you tried to leave school grounds they'd send dogs after you and if they didn't like you they'd sick the dogs on you when you were found. If they caught you it was back to the fields for back breaking cotton picking. The clever students threw pepper on their trail to throw off the dogs and were sure to follow the north star. Yup, just another day in the life of a millennial.
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Post by: starvingniglet on October 27, 2014, 03:27:46 pm
When I was in school and you tried to leave school grounds they'd send dogs after you and if they didn't like you they'd sick the dogs on you when you were found. If they caught you it was back to the fields for back breaking cotton picking. The clever students threw pepper on their trail to throw off the dogs and were sure to follow the north star. Yup, just another day in the life of a millennial.
so you are telling us that you are a nigger?
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Post by: Rocklin on October 27, 2014, 04:00:05 pm