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Title: I'm not sure if a gun would really help make me much safer...
Post by: Ragus on October 14, 2014, 06:36:21 am
Someones breakin in or w/e and i'd be like shit where'd I leave the gun lol.
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Post by: mashleshmash on October 14, 2014, 06:36:47 am
Put it under your bed doofus
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Post by: Soso0 on October 14, 2014, 06:37:56 am
Or just tape it to your leg
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Post by: Prometheus on October 14, 2014, 07:51:37 am
Unless you practice with it, and are good at keeping your wits when scared and just woken up, you're probably more likely to hurt yourself. I have a 12 gauge I mainly use for hunting, but since I have it anyway, I keep it prepped for home defense. To me, that means it's loaded with rock salt. It will wreck someone's day, but in a way that everyone will recover from, eventually.
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Post by: SlayerJ27 on October 14, 2014, 08:11:01 am
Unless you practice with it, and are good at keeping your wits when scared and just woken up, you're probably more likely to hurt yourself. I have a 12 gauge I mainly use for hunting, but since I have it anyway, I keep it prepped for home defense. To me, that means it's loaded with rock salt. It will wreck someone's day, but in a way that everyone will recover from, eventually.

Loading your 12 gauge with rock salt is a really fucking stupid idea.  If you ever have to use it on somebody, they will sue your ass off.  Thanks to leftist retards in the judicial system, the burglar will own your ass.
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Post by: Prometheus on October 14, 2014, 12:59:33 pm
I'd rather get sued than kill someone that didn't necessarily need killing. And that shit doesn't happen nearly as often as you think it does (which isn't to say it doesn't happen).
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Post by: bling bling on October 14, 2014, 05:02:26 pm
lolling @ the gun owners that masturbate over the thought of the day someone would DARE break into their home
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Post by: xbcnfujv on October 14, 2014, 05:53:11 pm
jacking off is fun
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Post by: BORSH on October 15, 2014, 08:55:30 pm
Someones breakin in or w/e and i'd be like shit where'd I leave the gun lol.

Common sense will keep you out of trouble. It is the first line of defense.

Guns are there for other reasons. If you stay out of trouble by using common sense, your necessity of a gun for self defense is almost null.

Guns are there because you can get further in life with a gun and a kind word than with just a kind word.
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Post by: Lord hang man on October 16, 2014, 01:47:52 am
If youre not a goldfish youll remember where it is and yea with a gun you can kill almost anyone who tries to hurt u or someone else so yea its safer to kill them than be harmed, obviously
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Post by: equanimity on October 16, 2014, 01:56:09 am
Someones breakin in or w/e and i'd be like shit where'd I leave the gun lol.

Wisdom.
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Post by: mizled on October 16, 2014, 02:00:12 am
Someones breakin in or w/e and i'd be like shit where'd I leave the gun lol.

(http://worth1000.s3.amazonaws.com/submissions/554500/554859_e176_625x1000.jpg)
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Post by: Max Headroom on October 16, 2014, 02:05:04 am
I would chest cavity the gun atleast 5 point blanks from the point triggered I before pull
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Post by: BORSH on October 16, 2014, 02:24:15 am
we all just really wish that a nigger would, ya know?
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Post by: equanimity on October 16, 2014, 02:25:47 am
we all just really wish that a nigger would, ya know?

Until it actually happens, and someone dies :(
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Post by: BORSH on October 16, 2014, 02:41:39 am
we all just really wish that a nigger would, ya know?

Until it actually happens, and someone dies :(

muh castle doctrine

muh freedoms

muh constitution
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Post by: Ninja on October 16, 2014, 03:04:58 am
we all just really wish that a nigger would, ya know?

Until it actually happens, and someone dies :(

LOL.  That's the fucking point.

Don't be breaking into people's houses unless you want shot.
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Post by: equanimity on October 16, 2014, 03:07:15 am
I think if most of you killed someone you'd be haunted by the memory for the rest of your lives.

:(
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Post by: Ninja on October 16, 2014, 03:12:45 am
I think if most of you killed someone you'd be haunted by the memory for the rest of your lives.

:(

Not at all.  Just hastening the inevitable.  That's Nature.  You go climbing in another animals hole and you get fucking dead.
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Post by: Sirfearoth on October 16, 2014, 03:32:23 am
I think if most of you killed someone you'd be haunted by the memory for the rest of your lives.

:(

Nope, and I have 6 confirmed kills from when I was in Afghanistan.
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Post by: equanimity on October 16, 2014, 03:34:50 am
Well this thread sure got depressing.
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Post by: Ninja on October 16, 2014, 03:55:56 am
Well this thread sure got depressing.

It's not depressing at all.  It's uplifting.  You see...  We as humans all sort of agreed that we would like be secure within our own houses and that it is wrong to break and enter.  So we celebrate human decency and unity when we're shooting motherfuckers in the face who might otherwise steal our property, and/or rape and kill our loved ones.  This no moment to be depressed.  Rejoice in self-defense!
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Post by: Umbrella Corp on October 16, 2014, 04:40:43 am
Unless you practice with it, and are good at keeping your wits when scared and just woken up, you're probably more likely to hurt yourself. I have a 12 gauge I mainly use for hunting, but since I have it anyway, I keep it prepped for home defense. To me, that means it's loaded with rock salt. It will wreck someone's day, but in a way that everyone will recover from, eventually.

Loading your 12 gauge with rock salt is a really fucking stupid idea.  If you ever have to use it on somebody, they will sue your ass off.  Thanks to leftist retards in the judicial system, the burglar will own your ass.
Bullshit.  If George Zimmerman can stalk a kid then chase him down and shoot him to death and WALK then I can't believe anyone would be charged for defending themselves from an intruder in their own home.

This seems like an urban legend to me made up by right wing paranoid douches who think the "lefties" are out to get them n take their guns. 
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Post by: ricomock on October 16, 2014, 05:06:13 am
I'd rather get sued than kill someone that didn't necessarily need killing. And that shit doesn't happen nearly as often as you think it does (which isn't to say it doesn't happen).

If they're breaking into your home they need killing
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Post by: ricomock on October 16, 2014, 05:13:58 am
Unless you practice with it, and are good at keeping your wits when scared and just woken up, you're probably more likely to hurt yourself. I have a 12 gauge I mainly use for hunting, but since I have it anyway, I keep it prepped for home defense. To me, that means it's loaded with rock salt. It will wreck someone's day, but in a way that everyone will recover from, eventually.

Loading your 12 gauge with rock salt is a really fucking stupid idea.  If you ever have to use it on somebody, they will sue your ass off.  Thanks to leftist retards in the judicial system, the burglar will own your ass.
Bullshit.  If George Zimmerman can stalk a kid then chase him down and shoot him to death and WALK then I can't believe anyone would be charged for defending themselves from an intruder in their own home.

This seems like an urban legend to me made up by right wing paranoid douches who think the "lefties" are out to get them n take their guns.

1. Going to where he saw someone acting like a dip shit, making a phone call, and heading back to his vehicle is not stalking
2. The nigger is the one who chased Zimmerman down, as Zimmerman was leaving


3. No, it's not even a urban legend. He's just making the being sued thing up. But he is correct that rock salt should not be used for home defense, it has vertically zero chance of reaching vital organs 
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Post by: Rook on October 16, 2014, 06:13:47 am
Me and my fiance keep three guns beside our bed, but leave the magazines out. Only one has an actual bullet in the chamber and it's on my side, just as an emergency precaution.. I don't necessarily recommend it though because it is dangerous, and an accident could mean a life of regret and in jail.

 On another note, if you plan on buying purchasing more than one gun and want to make it easier when grabbing the right clip, buy a rifle and pistol in a caliber with interchangeable mags.. I suggest .40 S&W, but that's just me.
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Post by: Ninja on October 16, 2014, 06:35:47 am
You should have weapons strategically placed all over your house. I used to keep a dagger right next to my toilet for those times when I was taking a shit. I'm poor so I can't afford guns, but you should constantly practice the skill of looking at random objects and figuring out how you would use it to kill someone.
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Post by: Sirfearoth on October 16, 2014, 06:58:23 am
Once my wife and I go to sleep we only keep 1 pistol and 1 shotgun loaded in our house. Both of which are placed to where myself or my wife have to physically get out of bed in order to get it. That is done as a safety precaution with having kids in the house. The only thing that accessible without getting out of bed is a flashlight.
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Post by: Rook on October 16, 2014, 10:56:11 am
You should have weapons strategically placed all over your house. I used to keep a dagger right next to my toilet for those times when I was taking a shit. I'm poor so I can't afford guns, but you should constantly practice the skill of looking at random objects and figuring out how you would use it to kill someone.

 I think there's a lot of wisdom to take away from this post. Most people who don't have a gun or sufficient weapon would initially panic in the instance of a violent home invasion.. when, in actuality your home is filled with potential lethal objects. I just wanted to boast on that for a moment since I literally just read a similar minded dissertation in a Homemade Weapon/DIY Prepping e-book just earlier today... You can find it on thebay if anyone is interested.
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Post by: AstralPlane on October 16, 2014, 02:37:04 pm
I am huge on home defense. I think its very smart to have guns handy around the house. I actually have three guns beside my bed ready in case of an emergency. I make sure to go and shoot them often so that I know that I can hit what I'm aiming for. Also when I stayed by my self at college I always slept with a dagger under my pillow and made sure to let people know that I did.  For extra defense my fiance and I have four guard dogs and a gate up at the end of our road. Needless to say we know in advance if anyone is coming to our place.
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Post by: starvingniglet on October 16, 2014, 02:54:23 pm
I think if most of you killed someone you'd be haunted by the memory for the rest of your lives.

:(

This
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Post by: Prometheus on October 17, 2014, 12:11:51 am
I think if most of you killed someone you'd be haunted by the memory for the rest of your lives.

:(

Seriously, I doubt that I would. If I were ever in a position where I had to kill someone, it's because they are trying to kill me or someone else, and it's the only way to end the threat. I've had to hurt people before, and hurt them bad, because they were trying to do the same. I rarely think about it, and never regretted it. Being a borderline sociopath helps though.
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Post by: starvingniglet on October 17, 2014, 12:15:07 am
Seriously, I doubt that I would. If I were ever in a position where I had to kill someone, it's because they are trying to kill me or someone else, and it's the only way to end the threat. I've had to hurt people before, and hurt them bad, because they were trying to do the same. I rarely think about it, and never regretted it. Being a borderline sociopath helps though.

I lay awake sometimes at night and feel bad about some of the shit I've done to people, so I know if I killed someone I would be affected, probably profoundly.  Not everyone is like that, though, and I have no problem with what you typed, I am not one of those people who expects everyone to feel the same way I do (even though I am right most of the time)
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Post by: Proots on October 17, 2014, 12:23:13 am
Just keep it in an easily accessible place. Get familiar with it and its operation. Make sure you are comfortable with retrieving it from said location. For example, I keep a small .380 in the left hand drawer of the desk I am typing on right now.

I have a Mossberg downstairs in the closet by the television. I have a Marlin 795 in the closet of the upstairs bedroom. I have a .22 in a kitchen drawer. I don't have anyone else living with me at the moment, so it's not necessary to have a gun safe at this point. Instead, I keep each one of my firearms in a location central to where I would most likely be in the house at any given time. That way, should the need arise (and, it never has and I hope it never will) I will have immediate access to a weapon and be able to defend myself.
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Post by: starvingniglet on October 17, 2014, 12:25:23 am
a small .380

my mom got me a bersa thunder for christmas one year.  nice little gun, had it for a while but gave it to a younger relative who would get more use out of it
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Post by: Proots on October 17, 2014, 12:26:53 am
a small .380

my mom got me a bersa thunder for christmas one year.  nice little gun, had it for a while but gave it to a younger relative who would get more use out of it

I purchased my mother a S&W .380 Bodyguard. I think they're better suited for women and self defense, since they are so small and compact, fit easily in a purse and work better in smaller hands.
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Post by: starvingniglet on October 17, 2014, 12:32:00 am
I purchased my mother a S&W .380 Bodyguard. I think they're better suited for women and self defense, since they are so small and compact, fit easily in a purse and work better in smaller hands.

I got my mom one of these before, with the gold on it and rosewood grips and everything

(http://i58.tinypic.com/1t546p.jpg)

edit- eh, picture is too small, its a taurus 15 .22
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Post by: equanimity on October 17, 2014, 12:32:36 am
I think if most of you killed someone you'd be haunted by the memory for the rest of your lives.

:(

Seriously, I doubt that I would. If I were ever in a position where I had to kill someone, it's because they are trying to kill me or someone else, and it's the only way to end the threat. I've had to hurt people before, and hurt them bad, because they were trying to do the same. I rarely think about it, and never regretted it.

But what if you find out later that they were suffering from schizophrenia or something, and now their loving family misses them dearly? :(

Being a borderline sociopath helps though.

:O
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Post by: starvingniglet on October 17, 2014, 12:41:48 am
But what if you find out later that they were suffering from schizophrenia or something, and now their loving family misses them dearly? :(

What if he notices that the man is obviously mentally ill, and doesn't shoot, and the schizophrenic then proceeds to stab him to death, then rapes and murders his family members while in the throes of quasi-religious ecstacy?  Later to be found innocent by reason of insanity? 

There is a reason why they say 'a man's home is his castle'....invade a man's castle, and get dealt with, end of story
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Post by: constantinople on October 17, 2014, 12:45:43 am
I wouldn't shoot someone for trying to take my stuff, no. I don't care about my shit that much, goddamn. I also wouldn't shoot someone because there is a woman in the house as it is both sexist and illogical reasoning.

I don't know what it would take to make me fear for my life, but home invasion is not it.


PS - I've walked into at least five dwellings before while drunk and on drugs thinking it was my apartment...I'd rather not get shot over stuff like that, choo know mang?
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Post by: starvingniglet on October 17, 2014, 12:54:04 am
I wouldn't shoot someone for trying to take my stuff, no. I don't care about my shit that much, goddamn. I also wouldn't shoot someone because there is a woman in the house as it is both sexist and illogical reasoning.

I don't know what it would take to make me fear for my life, but home invasion is not it.


PS - I've walked into at least five dwellings before while drunk and on drugs thinking it was my apartment...I'd rather not get shot over stuff like that, choo know mang?

Someone would have to get through my 'enslaved' canines first, the main reason I would end up shooting someone is if they hurt my dogs somehow...but you wouldn't understand anything about pets and loyalty, it goes both ways
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Post by: equanimity on October 17, 2014, 12:54:46 am
I've walked into at least five dwellings before while drunk and on drugs thinking it was my apartment...I'd rather not get shot over stuff like that, choo know mang?

Constantinople being the voice of reason, as usual ;)
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Post by: Proots on October 17, 2014, 12:55:06 am
I wouldn't shoot someone for trying to take my stuff, no. I don't care about my shit that much, goddamn. I also wouldn't shoot someone because there is a woman in the house as it is both sexist and illogical reasoning.

I don't know what it would take to make me fear for my life, but home invasion is not it.


PS - I've walked into at least five dwellings before while drunk and on drugs thinking it was my apartment...I'd rather not get shot over stuff like that, choo know mang?

This is why having a shotgun around the house is always nice. If someone breaks in, all they need to hear is you pumping that thing once and most people with even the smallest grain of self preservation will take that as a sign to tally ho.
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Post by: Proots on October 17, 2014, 12:57:28 am
PS - I've walked into at least five dwellings before while drunk and on drugs thinking it was my apartment...I'd rather not get shot over stuff like that, choo know mang?

I'm quite glad you didn't. That's an exceptionally dangerous, disrespectful and stupid thing to do. The fact you did it more than once is actually frightening. The fact you did it more than once knowing full well that getting killed could be the outcome is even more baffling. I like you very much and I say this with all the love in the world but, bro - what the hell is wrong with you?
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Post by: starvingniglet on October 17, 2014, 01:01:37 am
I've walked into at least five dwellings before while drunk and on drugs thinking it was my apartment...I'd rather not get shot over stuff like that, choo know mang?

Constantinople being the voice of reason, as usual ;)

Yes because everyone who goes into other peoples houses is just doing it by accident, because they are fucked up....no one means any harm....its all just a big misunderstanding. 
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Post by: Proots on October 17, 2014, 01:05:09 am
I've walked into at least five dwellings before while drunk and on drugs thinking it was my apartment...I'd rather not get shot over stuff like that, choo know mang?

Constantinople being the voice of reason, as usual ;)

Yes because everyone who goes into other peoples houses is just doing it by accident, because they are fucked up....no one means any harm....its all just a big misunderstanding.

It'd be interesting to see what the statistics are on gun owners who have shot and killed the intruders, compared to those who simply held them at gunpoint until the police arrive. I can't count the number of times I've heard about both situations. Someone breaks in and gets killed. Some breaks in and an old lady or whoever holds a gun on him and makes HIM call the police.

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Post by: starvingniglet on October 17, 2014, 01:10:08 am
PS - I've walked into at least five dwellings before while drunk and on drugs thinking it was my apartment...I'd rather not get shot over stuff like that, choo know mang?

I'm quite glad you didn't. That's an exceptionally dangerous, disrespectful and stupid thing to do. The fact you did it more than once is actually frightening. The fact you did it more than once knowing full well that getting killed could be the outcome is even more baffling. I like you very much and I say this with all the love in the world but, bro - what the hell is wrong with you?

I actually did this twice as a teenager, in struthers ohio, which is like a shitty suburb of youngstown.  In other words, niggerville.  One time some guy came out of the bedroom and said 'who the fuck are you' and I said 'I dont know' and ran out the door.  I was drunk as fuck heh. 

The other time it was apartments all with the same layout, so I went into one and went into the room I was staying in and layed down to sleep, because I was fucked up, but as I layed there I noticed a poster on the wall I had never seen before and realized I was in the wrong place.  Even more fucked up is, there were like four people sleeping in the living room, one I had to step over to get to the bedroom, and no one even noticed I was there. 

It was basically a crash pad just like the one I was staying in.  Except I was in the wrong one.  I just got up and left.
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Post by: constantinople on October 17, 2014, 01:15:25 am
PS - I've walked into at least five dwellings before while drunk and on drugs thinking it was my apartment...I'd rather not get shot over stuff like that, choo know mang?

I'm quite glad you didn't. That's an exceptionally dangerous, disrespectful and stupid thing to do. The fact you did it more than once is actually frightening. The fact you did it more than once knowing full well that getting killed could be the outcome is even more baffling. I like you very much and I say this with all the love in the world but, bro - what the hell is wrong with you?

Because in a long stretch of hallway with doors that all look the same, sometimes I'd just be walking not paying attention and have miss-counted the doors and accidentally gone in one early or some shit. Most people round there left their doors unlocked more often than not anyways so it would be me walking in and like a few college aged dudes playing xbox, probably stoned, going "lol sup?" and then usually I'd laugh and be like uh you guys have a good night.

It happened more often when I was drinking at someone else's apartment complex. It only happened like once or twice at my own apartment and they are my neighbors anyways so they knew who I was.


I'd also like to add that I am a very non-threatening looking person. If I walked into your house you would be confused and annoyed, probably not alarmed and scared. I'm just saying.
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Post by: equanimity on October 17, 2014, 01:18:03 am
I've walked into at least five dwellings before while drunk and on drugs thinking it was my apartment...I'd rather not get shot over stuff like that, choo know mang?

Constantinople being the voice of reason, as usual ;)

Yes because everyone who goes into other peoples houses is just doing it by accident, because they are fucked up....no one means any harm....its all just a big misunderstanding. 

Most people probably just want stuff.  Material things.  And no thing is worth a person's life.
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Post by: starvingniglet on October 17, 2014, 01:24:48 am
Most people probably just want stuff.  Material things.  And no thing is worth a person's life.

but yet people are killed daily over drugs and money...people will fucking straight up kill you if you fuck with their stuff, that is just how it is.  I am lucky I didn't get shot in the face, and I probably deserved it.  Sure I didn't mean any harm, but you know damn well not everyone is just a harmless drunk who wandered into the wrong identical apartment....
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Post by: Proots on October 17, 2014, 01:26:31 am
PS - I've walked into at least five dwellings before while drunk and on drugs thinking it was my apartment...I'd rather not get shot over stuff like that, choo know mang?

I'm quite glad you didn't. That's an exceptionally dangerous, disrespectful and stupid thing to do. The fact you did it more than once is actually frightening. The fact you did it more than once knowing full well that getting killed could be the outcome is even more baffling. I like you very much and I say this with all the love in the world but, bro - what the hell is wrong with you?

Because in a long stretch of hallway with doors that all look the same, sometimes I'd just be walking not paying attention and have miss-counted the doors and accidentally gone in one early or some shit. Most people round there left their doors unlocked more often than not anyways so it would be me walking in and like a few college aged dudes playing xbox, probably stoned, going "lol sup?" and then usually I'd laugh and be like uh you guys have a good night.

It happened more often when I was drinking at someone else's apartment complex. It only happened like once or twice at my own apartment and they are my neighbors anyways so they knew who I was.


I'd also like to add that I am a very non-threatening looking person. If I walked into your house you would be confused and annoyed, probably not alarmed and scared. I'm just saying.

Some drunk kid got dropped off either as a cruel joke or by accident in my neighbors lawn once. They called the cops and when the cops came and asked if they wanted to press charges, they were basically like "No, just make sure he gets home safely."

A big part of gun ownership is being responsible with your firearm. You first have to identify the threat, since automatically brandishing and discharging a firearm at someone in your home is going to result in you injuring or killing someone you know.

Unfortunately, I cannot condone what you did because like I said, it's rude, dangerous, disrespectful and careless. It's nice that they all happened to be college aged stoners who didn't care, but the last thing I would want to do is scare/alarm some lady or guy or couple or whatever.

I've walked into at least five dwellings before while drunk and on drugs thinking it was my apartment...I'd rather not get shot over stuff like that, choo know mang?

Constantinople being the voice of reason, as usual ;)

Yes because everyone who goes into other peoples houses is just doing it by accident, because they are fucked up....no one means any harm....its all just a big misunderstanding. 

Most people probably just want stuff.  Material things.  And no thing is worth a person's life.

Unfortunately, people also have a tendency to rape, maim and possibly kill you during a home invasion. A misconception people make about gun ownership is that a gun is for killing. A gun is for protection. You are supposed to use it as a tool to protect yourself from dangerous people. If worst comes to worst, pull the trigger. Otherwise, it's far more common to use a gun to scare someone off and/or hold them at bay until the police arrive and are able to sort out what's going on.

And, I'm sorry - but everyone who practices home invasions and burglaries does so full well knowing that they may end up injured, killed or arrested. They are the ones who decided that their life was worth less than your belongings, not you.
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Post by: equanimity on October 17, 2014, 01:28:37 am
Most people probably just want stuff.  Material things.  And no thing is worth a person's life.

but yet people are killed daily over drugs and money...people will fucking straight up kill you if you fuck with their stuff, that is just how it is.  I am lucky I didn't get shot in the face, and I probably deserved it.  Sure I didn't mean any harm, but you know damn well not everyone is just a harmless drunk who wandered into the wrong identical apartment....

Guns simply don't seem like a necessity to me.  I've never wished I had one, and neither have my parents.  They're especially dangerous to keep around if someone i your family suffer from mental health issues.  We've talked about that before, though...
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Post by: Proots on October 17, 2014, 01:30:26 am
Most people probably just want stuff.  Material things.  And no thing is worth a person's life.

but yet people are killed daily over drugs and money...people will fucking straight up kill you if you fuck with their stuff, that is just how it is.  I am lucky I didn't get shot in the face, and I probably deserved it.  Sure I didn't mean any harm, but you know damn well not everyone is just a harmless drunk who wandered into the wrong identical apartment....

Guns simply don't seem like a necessity to me.  I've never wished I had one, and neither have my parents.  They're especially dangerous to keep around if someone i your family suffer from mental health issues.  We've talked about that before, though...

You're spending the majority of your income on sexual reassignment procedures. Don't sit there and expound upon what's a necessity and what isn't. Few things really are a necessity, you fucking tranny-cunt retard.
Title: Re: I'm not sure if a gun would really help make me much safer...
Post by: equanimity on October 17, 2014, 01:33:48 am
Unfortunately, people also have a tendency to rape, maim and possibly kill you during a home invasion. A misconception people make about gun ownership is that a gun is for killing. A gun is for protection. You are supposed to use it as a tool to protect yourself from dangerous people. If worst comes to worst, pull the trigger. Otherwise, it's far more common to use a gun to scare someone off and/or hold them at bay until the police arrive and are able to sort out what's going on.

And, I'm sorry - but everyone who practices home invasions and burglaries does so full well knowing that they may end up injured, killed or arrested. They are the ones who decided that their life was worth less than your belongings, not you.

For a while I was considering purchasing a gun but never ever getting bullets for it, for self protection.  That seems like the most sensible way to own a gun, but then I'm a flaky leftist (rights cats?).  Now though, it seems pretty clear that there's no real need to own weapons for self protection.  At least in the places I live, where even the poor people aren't in much danger.  Might be different if you lived in a ghetto or whatever.

It's of course fine if other people own guns, though.  Just pray they never feel they have to use them...
Title: Re: I'm not sure if a gun would really help make me much safer...
Post by: mizled on October 17, 2014, 01:39:01 am

Most people probably just want stuff.  Material things.  And no thing is worth a person's life.

I've got lot's of things worth a persons life.

The type of person that would try to take those things isn't really worth more than a few rounds of ammo. Crime isn't supposed to be safe - if you try to make it safe it just breeds less talented criminals with an inflated sense of entitlement.
That's bad for business.
Title: Re: I'm not sure if a gun would really help make me much safer...
Post by: equanimity on October 17, 2014, 01:40:45 am
Oh, mizled :(
Title: Re: I'm not sure if a gun would really help make me much safer...
Post by: mizled on October 17, 2014, 01:41:55 am
Just trying to bring a sense of proportion to the  love fest.
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Post by: constantinople on October 17, 2014, 01:42:21 am
Most home invaders try and show up when you aren't home. Just saying, I can agree that if a home invader shows up when all the cars are in the driveway, they are pretty fucking dumb.

Also, I don't have a gun but I have a bat. It works well enough for me because I don't really have moral qualms about hitting someone with a bat a couple times.
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Post by: equanimity on October 17, 2014, 01:46:34 am
Most home invaders try and show up when you aren't home.

That's been my experience lol.
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Post by: starvingniglet on October 17, 2014, 02:24:19 am
Most home invaders try and show up when you aren't home. Just saying, I can agree that if a home invader shows up when all the cars are in the driveway, they are pretty fucking dumb.

Also, I don't have a gun but I have a bat. It works well enough for me because I don't really have moral qualms about hitting someone with a bat a couple times.

have you ever hit someone with a bat?  If not, how do you know?
Title: Re: I'm not sure if a gun would really help make me much safer...
Post by: Rook on October 17, 2014, 04:25:22 am
I think if most of you killed someone you'd be haunted by the memory for the rest of your lives.

:(

 If it were accidental, more than likely.. I have a habit of being very critical when I cause harm unintentionally to others. However, if someone where to deliberately put myself or (more so) my loved ones in a predicament to where I felt serious harm or death would occur.. I would flinch, hesitate, or even think.. that person would be dead. I think as humans we all harbor a primitive savage nature of sorts within us, and a fair amount of the population has sufficiently suppressed it through media over-sensitization. However, I recognize that I have the ability to protect myself and others, and know what capabilities are, however savage, in a worst case scenario defending myself or my own.

 Be prepared for everything, even if you hope it never has to come to that. Accepting certain ideals before their realization with save you on the shock and possible mental trauma that could follow.
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Post by: Ninja on October 17, 2014, 04:40:16 am

Accepting certain ideals before their realization with save you on the shock and possible mental trauma that could follow.

Exactly.  What are these fucking people ever going to do when SHTF?  My guess is that a vast majority of the population will have mental breakdowns and off themselves.  Then I will eat them to survive.
Title: Re: I'm not sure if a gun would really help make me much safer...
Post by: AstralPlane on October 19, 2014, 11:42:19 pm
HAHA I agree! If SHTF then you have to be willing to do what is needed in order to survive.