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Carnality => Better Living Through Chemistry => Topic started by: dopeman420 on October 02, 2014, 11:33:01 pm

Title: how much choline for a piracteam stack?
Post by: dopeman420 on October 02, 2014, 11:33:01 pm
I suck at google today all I can find is a spammy site that tries to sell you more nootropics. I'm using piracetam but I get headaches so I want to buy some choline to makeup for the choline deficiency that's likely causing my headache. How much choline do I need to supplement with? I'm using 1-2g of piracetam a day.
Title: Re: how much choline for a piracteam stack?
Post by: arleybob on October 03, 2014, 09:29:35 pm
I don't know but I don't think it's that big a deal that you need to measure it out, is it? Just eat some eggs or better yet buy some multivitamins (b complex or something). Any time I take noopept I take a multivitamin (for the choline and whatever else) and don't get headaches.
Title: Re: how much choline for a piracteam stack?
Post by: RisiR on October 03, 2014, 09:34:48 pm
Yea, eat an egg or two. I don't have much experience with piracetam but when I combine Noopept with a choline source - in my case Lecithin - I get brain fog en mass.
Title: Re: how much choline for a piracteam stack?
Post by: dopeman420 on October 04, 2014, 06:31:34 pm
I eat 3 eggs and a multi and still get headaches so I don't think it's enough.
Title: Re: how much choline for a piracteam stack?
Post by: arleybob on October 04, 2014, 06:49:11 pm
Maybe scale your dose down a bit? Also I know most nootropic vendors will sell a choline supplement right on their website. I think LiftMode does at least, as well as a few others.
Title: Re: how much choline for a piracteam stack?
Post by: Zanick on October 04, 2014, 07:27:35 pm
Like others have said, I'd recommend increasing dietary choline before attempting to supplement any particular dose. That failing, try purchasing an inexpensive bitartrate if you just want to relieve the headaches. Experiment with doses (starting on the low end) you can administer with a small, portable measuring spoon for easy use when you need it. Too much of the bitartrate can cause diarrhea, so just get to the point at which it seems to relieve your side effects. The less choline you have to take, the better.

Unless you're already noticing significant effects now, I'd try raising your dose of piracetam, if you find the choline to be working. As far as I've read, current studies suggest that 4.5g to 5g split into multiple doses will yield the most benefit.
Title: Re: how much choline for a piracteam stack?
Post by: dopeman420 on October 04, 2014, 07:40:42 pm
I ordered some Alpha GPC so I'll see if that helps. Definitely get a tension headache very soon after dosing that goes away after a few hours even w/ just 1g doses which leads me to believe I have a choline deficiency. And my diet is pretty good, lots of meat and protein.