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Title: The Official Counterfeit Money Thread
Post by: ngalo1983 on October 01, 2014, 07:11:13 am
This is for educational purposes only. Anything about counterfeit money please ask away but remember that actually doing it is against the law.

If one was to create it what type of thin enough paper would be used to glue together and not be over or lower weight & still feel like real money?
Title: Re: The Offical Counterfeit Money Thread
Post by: ngalo1983 on October 01, 2014, 07:13:43 am
Hmmmmmm
Title: Re: The Official Counterfeit Money Thread
Post by: Controversialrogue on October 01, 2014, 08:01:16 am
Only got polymer notes over here, no funny money for us.
Title: Re: The Official Counterfeit Money Thread
Post by: General Fault on October 01, 2014, 08:37:51 pm
You're not going to be able to laminate pieces of paper together and get something that feels like a proper note. Most play money, they tumble the fakes in a dryer with poker chips to beat them up a little. It's easier for them to make play money that looks and feels well worn then play money that is crisp and new.
Title: Re: The Official Counterfeit Money Thread
Post by: babybear on October 02, 2014, 12:47:27 am
How do you print on both sides of the paper eventually? Haven't  been able to get my prop money to center. One side is always off.
Title: Re: The Official Counterfeit Money Thread
Post by: ngalo1983 on October 02, 2014, 12:52:20 am
Hmmmm
Title: Re: The Official Counterfeit Money Thread
Post by: ngalo1983 on October 02, 2014, 10:49:04 pm
Hmmm
Title: Re: The Official Counterfeit Money Thread
Post by: General Fault on October 05, 2014, 05:49:55 am
How do you print on both sides of the paper eventually? Haven't  been able to get my prop money to center. One side is always off.

I think they make printers fuck that up on purpose. Hell, half the time mine prints so far off that even with a 1/4" margin it drops shit off the page.
Title: Re: The Official Counterfeit Money Thread
Post by: AlkieFish on October 07, 2014, 03:27:35 pm
Both Arthur Williams and Albert Talton used newsprint. It is thin enough to be glued together with both the watermark and strip inbetween. The feel is a problem, but you can use certain sprays to mimic the feel of real money which is made of fabric and not paper. You have to be a real artist to get it right. I suggest reading up on both Art Williams(The Art of Making Money) and whatever you can find on Talton. P.S. fuck any feds checking me out.
Title: Re: The Official Counterfeit Money Thread
Post by: AlkieFish on October 07, 2014, 03:37:27 pm
...about printing both sides...seriously??? If you can't figure this out by your lonesome, then you should not be thinking about counterfeiting. You are one of those dumbass high school kids the SS hates going after. I will accept questions about the watermark, the type of paper, the color-shifting ink, intaglio, and other security features, but inkjet printing? My hush puppy could figure that out, and she really is a stupid bitch.
Title: Re: The Official Counterfeit Money Thread
Post by: millionsofdeadcats on October 07, 2014, 04:01:48 pm
hush puppy

OT, but what the fuck is a 'hush puppy'?  You mean a basset hound? 
Title: Re: The Official Counterfeit Money Thread
Post by: AlkieFish on October 07, 2014, 04:04:19 pm
hush puppy

OT, but what the fuck is a 'hush puppy'?  You mean a basset hound?

Yes, ofcourse, but since she is mine I affectionately call her a hush puppy.
Title: Re: The Official Counterfeit Money Thread
Post by: millionsofdeadcats on October 07, 2014, 04:05:52 pm
Yes, ofcourse, but since she is mine I affectionately call her a hush puppy.

Thats.....pretty gay

but its ok when its a dog
Title: Re: The Official Counterfeit Money Thread
Post by: AlkieFish on October 07, 2014, 04:15:10 pm
Yes, ofcourse, but since she is mine I affectionately call her a hush puppy.

Thats.....pretty gay

but its ok when its a dog

Calling a basset hound a hush puppy is gay? Bro, if you wanna rag on me, surely you can try harder.
Title: Re: The Official Counterfeit Money Thread
Post by: millionsofdeadcats on October 07, 2014, 04:17:02 pm
Bro, if you wanna rag on me, surely you can try harder.

I am lazy, what can I say

I better add something OT so I don't derail this good thread.

Only got polymer notes over here, no funny money for us.

Why are polymer notes unable to be counterfeited?  Maybe a dumb question, but I am just a curious layman.
Title: Re: The Official Counterfeit Money Thread
Post by: ngalo1983 on October 10, 2014, 11:18:41 pm
Lmao someone scammed on craigslist with counterfeit $100 Look at his bill. He printed the watermark and security thread on the back but left it on. Why not cover it up the print on the back? He must be lazy lol How do you cover up watermark on the back? I don't think a white marker would work. Here's the link. http://inlandempire.craigslist.org/ele/4640102105.html
Title: Re: The Official Counterfeit Money Thread
Post by: General Fault on October 13, 2014, 05:39:52 pm
Stupid scammers, and even stupider person for taking those obvious fakes. I'd have checked them on the spot, and if found to be fake, I'd have walked over to their car and got their license plate on video as well as them.
Title: Re: The Official Counterfeit Money Thread
Post by: ngalo1983 on October 13, 2014, 10:07:37 pm
The bill looks terrible. I would have knew it was fake instantly. Why are the counterfeit money on the deep web soo terrible? Theyre selling counterfeit money that doesn't have watermarks, security threads, and UV light. If I sold on the deep web mines would be the best hands down but I don't counterfeit money because its against the law.
Title: Re: The Official Counterfeit Money Thread
Post by: General Fault on October 14, 2014, 05:11:10 pm
I haven't seen you post a novelty bill yet.
Title: Re: The Official Counterfeit Money Thread
Post by: ngalo1983 on October 15, 2014, 07:06:20 pm
I haven't seen you post a novelty bill yet.

That's because I don't counterfeit but if I did it would put shame to those sellers on the dark web.
Title: Re: The Official Counterfeit Money Thread
Post by: General Fault on October 16, 2014, 07:35:28 pm
There were a couple people around this area who passed off fake 100's at some very expensive shopping areas. The fakes were not well done, but they counted on the fact that the only verification these places tended to do was to use the test pens. The paper passed those tests. If they had checked for watermarks and security strips, which takes but a second to do, they would have been rejected.
Title: Re: The Official Counterfeit Money Thread
Post by: ngalo1983 on October 16, 2014, 07:42:10 pm
There were a couple people around this area who passed off fake 100's at some very expensive shopping areas. The fakes were not well done, but they counted on the fact that the only verification these places tended to do was to use the test pens. The paper passed those tests. If they had checked for watermarks and security strips, which takes but a second to do, they would have been rejected.

I don't even know why people mess with $100's for because they really check those. If its not a super note I wouldn't do $100's.
Title: Re: The Official Counterfeit Money Thread
Post by: ngalo1983 on October 17, 2014, 11:00:02 pm
Any legit counterfeit sellers online anymore? Back in the days there was a lot of sellers and they sold high quality counterfeit money but now there is none. The ones that do sell only sell crappy ones. Anybody know any legit sellers online?
Title: Re: The Official Counterfeit Money Thread
Post by: GatewayX on October 21, 2014, 05:52:39 pm
Hi, i would like to point out that the main problem in developing these notes are the watermark,security thread,colour shifting ink and hologram.Previous artist drew their watermarks with pencil then stuck the notes together....but its time consuming...the security thread needs to glow a certain colour under uv light...thats a huge problem by itself..holograms are difficult but i believe there is a technique to create a plate from copper through chemical etching.I suspect the rubber plates wont last long...due to the heat used in printing the holographic foil.As for colour shifting ink...am lost...any more info on these topics op.
Title: Re: The Official Counterfeit Money Thread
Post by: ngalo1983 on October 21, 2014, 05:55:57 pm
Hi, i would like to point out that the main problem in developing these notes are the watermark,security thread,colour shifting ink and hologram.Previous artist drew their watermarks with pencil then stuck the notes together....but its time consuming...the security thread needs to glow a certain colour under uv light...thats a huge problem by itself..holograms are difficult but i believe there is a technique to create a plate from copper through chemical etching.I suspect the rubber plates wont last long...due to the heat used in printing the holographic foil.As for colour shifting ink...am lost...any more info on these topics op.

Its exactly more easier then you think. The shifting ink can be purchased from people that paint cars. I think auto zone carries it but not sure.
Title: Re: The Official Counterfeit Money Thread
Post by: General Fault on October 21, 2014, 10:12:43 pm
That would be paint. I guarantee the first time you bend the bill, it'll crack. No, to get most of this stuff right, you'd have to mix your own. Irridescent type color shifting pigments can be found online pretty easily and can be mixed into ink for the right effect. The problem with each step of the way is that it costs a hell of a lot of money to get the supplies, and many many attempts to get it right.
Title: Re: The Official Counterfeit Money Thread
Post by: ngalo1983 on October 21, 2014, 10:41:57 pm
That would be paint. I guarantee the first time you bend the bill, it'll crack. No, to get most of this stuff right, you'd have to mix your own. Irridescent type color shifting pigments can be found online pretty easily and can be mixed into ink for the right effect. The problem with each step of the way is that it costs a hell of a lot of money to get the supplies, and many many attempts to get it right.

There's this nail polish its two tone its gold glitter...I forgot the name but you just use a tooth pick to dip a little then lightly shade it in but only lightly. Believe it or not it really looks like the real thing and does shift when you move it but then again I wouldn't know anything about counterfeit because its against the law.
Title: Re: The Official Counterfeit Money Thread
Post by: mashleshmash on October 21, 2014, 10:42:36 pm
counterfiet money

i wonder if ive ever used coiterfeit money


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Title: Re: The Official Counterfeit Money Thread
Post by: ngalo1983 on October 21, 2014, 10:52:56 pm
counterfiet money

i wonder if ive ever used coiterfeit money


cvause fuck speling fn=niger

Relax! I started this thread and you can see I spelled it correctly. Just a typo. Now get back to the main topic.
Title: Re: The Official Counterfeit Money Thread
Post by: GatewayX on October 22, 2014, 02:12:33 am
That would be paint. I guarantee the first time you bend the bill, it'll crack. No, to get most of this stuff right, you'd have to mix your own. Irridescent type color shifting pigments can be found online pretty easily and can be mixed into ink for the right effect. The problem with each step of the way is that it costs a hell of a lot of money to get the supplies, and many many attempts to get it right.

There's this nail polish its two tone its gold glitter...I forgot the name but you just use a tooth pick to dip a little then lightly shade it in but only lightly. Believe it or not it really looks like the real thing and does shift when you move it but then again I wouldn't know anything about counterfeit because its against the law.

I heard some people use women facial powder applied with a stencil and coated with odorless hair spray for the colour shifting ink...sounds like it might work
Title: Re: The Official Counterfeit Money Thread
Post by: GatewayX on November 02, 2014, 08:33:36 pm
Here is some crucial information on this topic.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Security_printing (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Security_printing)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intaglio_(printmaking) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intaglio_(printmaking))


All you need to know about holographic foil,pdf file.

http://www.ferret.com.au/ODIN/PDF/Showcases/14028.pdf (http://www.ferret.com.au/ODIN/PDF/Showcases/14028.pdf)

Title: Re: The Official Counterfeit Money Thread
Post by: babybear on November 22, 2014, 05:44:11 pm
What happens if when you go to print on the paper, its uneven. The 2 sides of the paper that are printed on are not even. Just wondering.
Title: Re: The Official Counterfeit Money Thread
Post by: GatewayX on November 25, 2014, 11:07:46 am
Re align and print again,use the same alignment from first page
Title: Re: The Official Counterfeit Money Thread
Post by: Legendary on November 25, 2014, 03:48:31 pm
Anyone tried this paper?

http://www.fystore.com/p54693/COTTON-AND-LINEN-A4-CURRENCY-PAPER.html