The Sanctuary
Carnality => Better Living Through Chemistry => Topic started by: RisiR on September 25, 2014, 08:10:18 pm
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He had long suspected that the terpenes present in cannabis resin enhance the potency of THC. Ten years after launching HortaPharm, Watson tested his hypothesis in an experiment that compared the subjective effects of 100 percent THC to lesser amounts in terpene-infused cannabis resin. The consensus among Watson and several associates: Terpene-infused resin with 50 percent THC was more potent by dry weight than an equivalent amount of pure THC.
Here's the article.
http://www.hightimes.com/read/talking-terpenes
"Can't even smell it when I squeeze it? Don't pass it this way."
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I would give this thanks if possible.
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where can i buy these turpines to saturate my herbal jew
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where can i buy these turpines to saturate my herbal jew
You need to soak your bud in turpentine before smoking it
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I would give this thanks if possible.
You are welcome. :tup:
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Very interesting. Great thread risir. I had seen terpenes effecting the high mentioned before, but it seemed speculative and no one presented any hard evidence, so I didn't pay much attention to it.
It could explain the difference I noticed between the OG Kush sample from Silk Road and my home grown C99 and NL, which were both extremely low odor, no odor control was needed and it was an indoor grow in an unsealed closet. The main difference I noticed was that the OG seemed to significantly increase imagination and visualization ability, which was my favorite effect, while the others were more boring, which could be good for some that don't react well to the mental state cannabis can induce, a simpler high. The article mentioned that OG Kush was found to have a large amount of limonene. Oh, the high from the hash and oil I bought from SR also seemed to be more similar to C99 and NL, both low odor and would be expected to have less terpenes than buds.
He had long suspected that the terpenes present in cannabis resin enhance the potency of THC. Ten years after launching HortaPharm, Watson tested his hypothesis in an experiment that compared the subjective effects of 100 percent THC to lesser amounts in terpene-infused cannabis resin. The consensus among Watson and several associates: Terpene-infused resin with 50 percent THC was more potent by dry weight than an equivalent amount of pure THC.
Double blind with non active aromatics added to the THC for one group, along with a good rating scale?
Interested in alpha-pinene, limonene, and this:
Much better and extensive: https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=275717
Cineole/eucalyptol – Cineole/eucalyptol content is quite variable across varieties of Cannabis, but is often a major component of the essential oil. It is also found in rosemary and eucalyptus and is used to increase circulation, and reduce pain and swelling when applied topically. It readily crosses the blood/brain barrier, possibly helping cannabinoids to cross more readily as well. The effects of cineole, when combined with oral or smoked Cannabis, are reported as being very uplifting, noticeably increasing mental and physical energy. This terpene, or others like it, may be responsible for the reported difference in effect between indica and sativa strains with a similar cannabinoid profile.
I actually have a small bottle of 100% eucalyptus oil that could work well with my heat gun vape, add a few drops to the ground flowers. Tempted to try it, but if there's something I'm unaware of and it goes wrong, it could be very painful. Eh, likely no chance of anything serious happening, just hurt my lungs at worst. I'd obviously just take a small sip of vapor first, and spit it out if it was painful.
Anyone else interested in experimenting? I''m particularly interested in seeing combinations of terpenes and syncans. Syncan blends that are sold may already contain plants with significant terpene levels.
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Think of it like an aroma therapy. I'd appreaciate your test with the oil but it will most likely make you throw up. You could normally inhale it after smoking your Cindy and look for any changes.
(http://www.cwanalytical.com/sites/default/files/field/image/Cannabis-guide-img2.png)
Here are some detailed tests from Greenhouse seeds.
http://www.greenhouseseeds.nl/shop/strains-terpenes-profiles.html
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Fascinating article, seems like an obvious discovery but this is the first I've really read on it.
where can i buy these turpines to saturate my herbal jew
You need to soak your bud in turpentine before smoking it
+1
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Just tried it. Ran to the store because I needed some other things, so I bought some lemon extract as well (ingredients: alcohol, lemon oil, water). Orange oil may be better, I'm not sure. Used about 4 drops of each, from a 1 ml capacity dropper.
The eucalyptus oil made the vapor require slower inhalation. There does seem to be greater clarity of mind and less sedation, a cleaner uplifting high.
https://www.drugs-forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=251965
Anecdotal evidence suggests that the terpene alpha-pinene is alerting, limonene is “sunshine-y,”
Yes, sunshine-y does seem a fitting description.
I'd say it's worth trying. Significant improvement.
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That's very interesting. Are you sure it's not placebo?
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I don't believe I am significantly susceptible to the placebo effect, for various good reasons (mental architecture, personality variables, thought process (logical, analytic), intelligence). Fortunately my environment and mood are extremely consistent as well, limiting the impact of confounding variables. The effects I receive from cannabis tend to be pretty consistent, within a small range.
Did feel a bit hungover when I got out of bed, but I did stay up late watching a film and redosing occasionally, along with having gotten out of bed at 4PM, so it could have been something else. I would add less eucalyptus oil next time, maybe only two drops. Actually, I would leave it out first to see if there's any noticeable difference.
Anyone else interested in trying it? The items needed are readily available and it's well worth it.
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why havent put up a step by step yet
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I'm currently in the process of aquiring a real life but I'll provide more to this thread over time.
Malice, thank you for contributing in such a great way, really. Motherfucker vapes the oil straight up, lol. Good job. :tup:
In Cannabis:
-over 120 different terpenes can be manufactured by Cannabis, some only in trace amounts with others in double-digit percentage
-produced in the Trichomes, the same glands where THC is produced, comprising between 10 and 20 percent of the total oils produced by the glands
-about 10-29 percent of marijuana smoke resin is composed of terpenes/terpenoids
-drug sniffing dogs are able to smell odorous terpenes, not THC
-age, maturation and time of day can affect the amount and ratios of terpenes. They are constantly being produced but are vaporized by heat and light of the day… so harvest in early morning!
-climate and weather also affect terpene and flavonoid production. The same variety, even genotype, can produce a different terpene profile when grown in different soils or with different fertilizers.
-in addition to many circulatory and muscular effects, some terpenes interact with neurological receptors
-a few bind weakly to Cannabinoid receptors
-others seem to alter the permeability of cell membranes and allow in either more or less THC
Examples of some common Terpenes found in Cannabis:
-Borneol - menthol, camphor, pine, woody. Can be easily converted into menthol. Found in Cinnamon and Wormwood. It is considered a "calming sedative" in Chinese medicine. It is directed for fatigue, recovery from illness and stress.
-Caryophyllene - spicy, sweet, woody, clove, camphor, peppery. Found in black pepper(15-25%), clove(10-20%) and cotton(15-25%). It binds weakly to CB2 receptor. As a topical it is one of the constituents of clove oil, an anti-inflammatory and analgesic treatment for toothache. In high amounts, it’s a calcium and potassium ion channel blocker. As a result, it impedes the pressure exerted by heart muscles. Since THC does not have a smell, drug dogs are trained to find one, very smelly molecule called Caryophyllene-epoxide!
-Cineole/Eucalyptol- spicy, camphor, refreshing, minty. Found in rosemary, eucalyptus. It is used to increase circulation, pain relief and easily crosses the blood-brain-barrier to trigger fast olfactory reaction. Eucalyptus oil is considered centering, balancing and stimulating. It is possibly the stimulating and thought provoking part of the cannabis smoke stream.
-Delta3Carene- sweet, pine, cedar, woodsy, pungent. A constituent of rosemary, pine and cedar resin. In aroma therapy, cypress oil, high in D-3-carene, is used to dry excess fluids, tears, running noses, excess menstrual flow and perspiration. It may contribute to the dry eye and mouth experienced by some marijuana users.
-Limonene- citrus (orange, tangerine, lemon, and grapefruit), rosemary, juniper, peppermint. Repulsive to predators. Found in the rinds of many fruits and flowers. With the presence of other certain terpenes, Limonene can be an anti-bacterial, anti-fungal, anti-depressant and anti- carcinogen. It can synergistically promote the absorption of other terpenes by quickly penetrating cell membranes. The result can be increased systolic blood pressure. Since Limonene is such a potent anti-fungal and anti-cancer agent, it is thought to protect against aspergillus fungi and carcinogens found in cannabis smoke streams!
-Linolool- floral (spring flowers), lily, citrus and candied spice. Possesses anti-anxiety and sedative properties (also in lavender).
-Myrcene– clove like, earthy, green-vegetative, citrus, fruity with tropical mango and minty nuances. The most prevalent terpene found in most varieties of marijuana, it is also present in high amounts in Mangos, hops, lemon grass, East Indian bay tree, verbena and Mercia. Myrcene is one of the most important chemicals used in the perfumery industry. Because of its pleasant odor, it is occasionally used directly. It’s a building block for menthol, citronella, and geraniol. It possesses antimicrobial, antiseptic, analgesic, antioxidant, anti-carcinogen, anti depressant, anti-inflammatory, and muscle relaxing effects. Myrcene affects the permeability of the cell membranes, allowing more THC to reach brain cells.
-Pinene- Alpha: pine needles, rosemary Beta: dill, parsley, rosemary, basil, yarrow, rose, hops, the familiar odor associated with pine trees and their resins. It is the major component in turpentine and is found in many other plant essential oils including rosemary, sage, and eucalyptus. Pinene can increase mental focus and energy, as well as act as an expectorant, bronchodilator (the smoke seems to expand in your lungs), and topical antiseptic. It easily crosses the blood-brain barrier where it inhibits activity of acetylcholinesterase, which destroys acetylcholine, an information transfer molecule, resulting in better memory. It may counteract THC's activity, which leads to low acetylcholine levels. Largely due to the presence of pinene, rosemary and sage are both considered "memory plants." Concoctions made from their leaves have been used for thousands of years in traditional medicine to retain and restore memory.
-Pulegone- mint, camphor, rosemary, candy. It is implicated in liver damage in very high dosages. It is found in tiny quantities in marijuana. Pulegone is an acetylcholinesterase inhibitor. That is, it stops the action of the protein that destroys acetylcholine, which is used by the brain to store memories.
-Sabinene - Found in oak trees, tea tree oil, black pepper and is a major constituent of carrot seed oil.
-Terpineol- floral, lilac, citrus, apple/orange blossoms, lime. It is a minor constituent of many plant essential oils. It is used in perfumes and soaps for fragrance. It reduces physical motility 45% in lab rat tests… Couch-lock effect?
http://terpenes.weebly.com/
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Try at home!
-Inhale the herbal aromas prior to consumption. Break up the bud, releasing volatile terpenes and INHALE deeply through your nose. Wait 5 minutes and you will maximize the benefits from that bud.
-Eat a Mango 1 hour before consuming Cannabis. Mangos are high in Myrcene which increases the effects of THC. Especially if it’s a less potent strain, you should notice more of a “zing”… :)
I always break up my bud and bath in the dankness. No other plant or thing on this planet has such a wide palette of tastes and smells and I love it. I've had plants that smelled of fuel, garlic and tropic sunshine at the same fucking time.
God, I love the dank.
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Some of the best weed I have ever had smelled exactly like feces. I kept thinking that my dogs had shit behind something where I couldn't find it, and I was suspicious because they have never had an accident in the house before, but it was the freaking bag of weed sitting under the shelf near where I sat. That weed was so good I would take two hits and forget that I was smoking weed.
edit - p.s. kickass thread, RisiR.
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There's a famous NL#5xHaze phenotype called Cat Piss. It's a legendary strain because it's psychedelic as fuck but damn, it tastes like fucking cat piss.
One of my favorite buds was a Chronic plant from Serious Seeds that smelled like a baby ate a peach and shit it out, mixed with alcoholic red wine puke. That was the bomb.
I've already smoked the Holy Grail of all Cannabis, though. When I think about it I could cry. My buddy back then grew it, the strain is called C4 from Chimera seeds but it was a one of a kind phenotype. It purpled so much that parts of the bud were solid black and it had bright orange hairs. I can't describe the taste because it was something else, man. I've never smoked weed like that again and I've smoked massive amounts of weed. It made me see yellow patterns of energy and was just so psychedelic but clear, it was bliss.
Yea, I had a couple of S1 seeds of that plant but the cops raided the place and stole my babies. ACAB.
One day... I'll be with you again C4. I'll never stop searching.
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Some of the best weed I have ever had smelled exactly like feces. I kept thinking that my dogs had shit behind something where I couldn't find it, and I was suspicious because they have never had an accident in the house before, but it was the freaking bag of weed sitting under the shelf near where I sat. That weed was so good I would take two hits and forget that I was smoking weed.
edit - p.s. kickass thread, RisiR.
http://cannabis.wikia.com/wiki/Dog_Shit
I've already smoked the Holy Grail of all Cannabis, though. When I think about it I could cry. My buddy back then grew it, the strain is called C4 from Chimera seeds but it was a one of a kind phenotype.
Are any clones still alive? Shame if it was lost forever. Seeds aren't reliable due to genetic variation, you might never find it again that way. A cutting is so easy to keep alive, all you'd need is a CFL and small box.
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http://cannabis.wikia.com/wiki/Dog_Shit
That exactly describes the appearance and characteristics of what I posted about. Thanks.
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Some of the best weed I have ever had smelled exactly like feces. I kept thinking that my dogs had shit behind something where I couldn't find it, and I was suspicious because they have never had an accident in the house before, but it was the freaking bag of weed sitting under the shelf near where I sat. That weed was so good I would take two hits and forget that I was smoking weed.
edit - p.s. kickass thread, RisiR.
http://cannabis.wikia.com/wiki/Dog_Shit
I've already smoked the Holy Grail of all Cannabis, though. When I think about it I could cry. My buddy back then grew it, the strain is called C4 from Chimera seeds but it was a one of a kind phenotype.
Are any clones still alive? Shame if it was lost forever. Seeds aren't reliable due to genetic variation, you might never find it again that way. A cutting is so easy to keep alive, all you'd need is a CFL and small box.
No cuts, nothing. It's gone. The cops raided my other buddy where we stored the S1 seeds and the guy who grew it got time.
I don't want to look like I underestimate your knowledge with the following explanation of what S1 means, just saying.
S1 seeds are made through self-polination in late flower, or by adding colloidal silver. In late flower the plant often turns into a hermaphrodite so it doesn't die a virgin and basically fucks itself. The seeds that come out of that only possess the gene material of that one plant. Sure, that doesn't mean that the line is stable and you will (very likely) still get different phenotypes but it was all we had. I never had access to the plants and could take a cut, sadly.
How to make your own Colloidal silver spray
http://www.growweedeasy.com/how-to-make-your-own-feminized-marijuana%20seeds
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Woops, I thought you meant 1st generation seeds. I know about that.