I have looked and looked and tested any and all rep systems that I thought would suit our purposes. My verdict? I cannot find a system that does NOT show or have an option to disallow viewing the total amount of thanks/likes/karma/etc. someone has, which is rather unacceptable. Anything which shows such a total leads to rep spam, pure and simple. So we cannot do that.
Unless you all have a solution, it looks like the question of whether or not to have a rep system has been decided for us really. Sorry again.
Just give in an punish thanks-whoring.
I mean fuck... I even voted against it, but I'll put up with it.
Just give in an punish thanks-whoring.
I mean fuck... I even voted against it, but I'll put up with it.
Thanks for checking out the options for everyone. I guess we'll have to use our words when we want to express gratitude or approval. Hey, that wasn't too bad.
Thanks for checking out the options for everyone. I guess we'll have to use our words when we want to express gratitude or approval. Hey, that wasn't too bad.
+1
I have looked and looked and tested any and all rep systems that I thought would suit our purposes. My verdict? I cannot find a system that does NOT show or have an option to disallow viewing the total amount of thanks/likes/karma/etc. someone has, which is rather unacceptable. Anything which shows such a total leads to rep spam, pure and simple. So we cannot do that.
Unless you all have a solution, it looks like the question of whether or not to have a rep system has been decided for us really. Sorry again.
what are you even doing Arnoxilluminaughty
like a good politician was, now corrupted by greed
Also as STD said, there are communities I have been involved in where only M&A can give karma, and then once a user has received a certain number of karma (usually 20), they can give out like 1 karma a day.
This encourages orderliness and self-policing.
Thanks for checking out the options for everyone. I guess we'll have to use our words when we want to express gratitude or approval. Hey, that wasn't too bad.^Will result in it's own special flavor of shitpost: "It's sooooo good to hear it!" "Thanks!" "The following users say..." etc.
Glad to see common sense and an adult outlook with legitimate foresight has prevailed.A vote was held and disqualified on a technicality. So long as the ballots weren't stuffed by alts, the outcome was valid.
Now for the oncoming tears for a couple of days from a handful of weirdos that have to go slithering back to Facebook for their cheap validation in this world. :'(
Thanks for checking out the options for everyone. I guess we'll have to use our words when we want to express gratitude or approval. Hey, that wasn't too bad.^Will result in it's own special flavor of shitpost: "It's sooooo good to hear it!" "Thanks!" "The following users say..." etc.Glad to see common sense and an adult outlook with legitimate foresight has prevailed.A vote was held and disqualified on a technicality. So long as the ballots weren't stuffed by alts, the outcome was valid.
Now for the oncoming tears for a couple of days from a handful of weirdos that have to go slithering back to Facebook for their cheap validation in this world. :'(
Why accuse those in favor of needing validation while the validity of your position's existence is due to technical reprieve? ell oh fucking ell...?Spoiler(http://tosh.cc.com/blog/files/2011/11/MtBrV.jpg)
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Glad to see common sense and an adult outlook with legitimate foresight has prevailed.
Now for the oncoming tears for a couple of days from a handful of weirdos that have to go slithering back to Facebook for their cheap validation in this world. :'(
what are you even doing Arnox
like a good politician was, now corrupted by greed
Rep spam doesn't sound so bad to me. It's all just fun and games regardless. Wouldn't be as bad you people seem to think it would be. Was zoklet awful because of thanks? Really seems to me you were searching for a solution to a problem that didn't exist. Oh no, the system keeps track of this fun and meaningless forum toy! That would be fucking chaos, man. Riots in the streets and stuff.
Whatever, though. You've done so much for us already. Maybe if we want to avoid rep spam you could make like a "meh" system. This way people could express their indifference even though they were never going to post (because they were indifferent). Yeah.
What about a dual system, positive and negative rep? It could drag a lot bad posters down. "Thank" and "Huff Raid".
What if every time you got Thanked, your balls tingled, and this ended up just being some huge homo shit?
if the down vote option was really "huff raid", then I would be unconditionally for it.
if the down vote option was really "huff raid", then I would be unconditionally for it.
I have actually huffed raid before, and posted about it more than once at zoklet. No one noticed or cared though.
if the down vote option was really "huff raid", then I would be unconditionally for it.
I have actually huffed raid before, and posted about it more than once at zoklet. No one noticed or cared though.
Of how much value do you expect those posts to likely be? They're just going to be clutter.
Thanks is also a good way of finding like minded people, learning more about them by seeing what they respond to.
Of how much value do you expect those posts to likely be? They're just going to be clutter.
I think there's some value in that statement, but removal of no-content replies is what mods are there for. Maybe a mod could delete the clutter but post that posters a, b and c 'thanked' someone's efforts.Thanks is also a good way of finding like minded people, learning more about them by seeing what they respond to.
How many people bother to collect and use the names of 'like minded people' based on what they thank?
Maybe I'm a shallow snob but the primary thing I learnt from the thanks system was that flaming other posters and pouring buckets of vomit over your head were amongst the most efficient ways of increasing your count.
if the down vote option was really "huff raid", then I would be unconditionally for it.
I have actually huffed raid before, and posted about it more than once at zoklet. No one noticed or cared though.
I remember when MandatorySuicide (I thinks that's who) posted a video of them doing it.
if the down vote option was really "huff raid", then I would be unconditionally for it.
I have actually huffed raid before
if the down vote option was really "huff raid", then I would be unconditionally for it.
I have actually huffed raid before
well that explains a lot.
Why hold a public poll if when the results aren't in your favor you dismiss it entirely?
Why hold a public poll if when the results aren't in your favor you dismiss it entirely?
The staff didn't hold a public poll, a normal user put it up....not them. And if you really think about it, if that thread had been on Zoklet it would have been trashed within hours if not minutes by Panthrax or Psychomanthis....because there had already been a half dozen or so threads talking about it, they were basically flooding the section with this nonsense.
You should be grateful the admin even humored the idea, and did give at least SOME consideration to it...and even tried to find a workable solution that would fit into his bigger picture for this place. Ask yourself this, what would Zok and O_RLY actually "done" in regard to researching an issue they were against, would they have even put 2 minutes of their own time in? Of course not, they would have sent the lackeys out to delete the thread, and just shut everyone up like always.
Most importantly, your 2.5K thanks is a really great indicator at why rep/thanks systems really don't do anything positive in the grand scheme of things. Because all you had was a gaggle of kidiots thanking nonsense, and none of it really inspired any kind of positive or creative "discussion" about anything. What did you get thanked for? Cheering on the drawball/paint by number fiasco. Posting PI with alarming frequency. Going out in the world and video taping you bullying on homeless/mentally ill people. Etc ad nauseum.
That wasn't content, just you being a basement dwelling loser, and in turn even more pathetic basement dwelling losers that were even more socially awkward than you starting clicking buttons. Whoopty doo, The Hero of The Stupid gets acclaim for being barely over a step beyond picking your nose on camera. And what was the end result, and the "pulse" of Zoklet? Idiocy, bullying, and politics....which is why as every day passed, the userbase and activity shrunk more and more and more until it was the desolate wasteland before the end days.
Honestly, for fuck's sake DaGuru, if you have this much passion why not channel it into something that actually matters instead of flipping out over internet politics on a small message board?
if the down vote option was really "huff raid", then I would be unconditionally for it.
I have actually huffed raid before
well that explains a lot.
Huffing raid > australia
Because he wants to be a moderator
Because he wants to be a moderator
You clearly don't understand what kind of a lazy fucker I truly am...
ELL OH FUCKIN ELL @ the latest fairy tale and colorful bullshit some of you people come up with all as an excuse to flame me. Unless I was getting paid to do anything online, there is no way I would give anyone a commitment like that to such a degree. You clearly don't understand what kind of a lazy fucker I truly am, but of course someone that is so invested in these communities over these years would think someone's "end game" was to be part of the staff just to get some kind of ego stroke.
Nope, its posts like yours above that strokes my ego quite enough for any e-fun I get in places like this, because the fact you come up with such fanciful fiction to come up with something, ANYTHING to flame me just exposes how frustrated and butthurt you are all because I continue to call a spade a spade and mock that sad thing you call a life(?).
Speaking of which how's baby mama this weekend any how? What chemical did she put in her body the last couple of days to try to escape the life she has made for herself?
ELL OH FUCKIN ELL @ the latest fairy tale and colorful bullshit some of you people come up with all as an excuse to flame me. Unless I was getting paid to do anything online, there is no way I would give anyone a commitment like that to such a degree. You clearly don't understand what kind of a lazy fucker I truly am, but of course someone that is so invested in these communities over these years would think someone's "end game" was to be part of the staff just to get some kind of ego stroke.
Nope, its posts like yours above that strokes my ego quite enough for any e-fun I get in places like this, because the fact you come up with such fanciful fiction to come up with something, ANYTHING to flame me just exposes how frustrated and butthurt you are all because I continue to call a spade a spade and mock that sad thing you call a life(?).
Speaking of which how's baby mama this weekend any how? What chemical did she put in her body the last couple of days to try to escape the life she has made for herself?
Neither of us drink or otherwise get fucked up. She never was the type, and I gave all that up long before our son was even conceived. Nice try, though. Keep up the personal attacks. They certainly do a great job of demonstrating your hypocrisy and shattering your insistence that the butthurt rests on every ass but your own.
And, that "sad little thing that *I* call a life" is actually quite awesome. I don't need to go into details that you'll inevitably and assuredly contest anyway, because you have a cumpulsion to convince yourself and anyone deluded enough to listen that you know the first thing about quality of my life, but let's just say that my reality > your fiction.
That aside, you obviously think you know what's best for this community. Damn near every post of yours that I've ever read contained critique or criticism of the site(s) or staff. You've mentioned repeatedly and consistently the perceived failings of mods and admins and proclaimed to know beyond all doubt how to fix the problems they created.
If that doesn't sound like a political campaign for a mod panel, then I don't know what does.
Or would you rather have Spectral do your dirty work?
Ell Oh Fuckin Ell...
ELL OH FUCKIN ELL @ the latest fairy tale and colorful bullshit some of you people come up with all as an excuse to flame me. Unless I was getting paid to do anything online, there is no way I would give anyone a commitment like that to such a degree. You clearly don't understand what kind of a lazy fucker I truly am, but of course someone that is so invested in these communities over these years would think someone's "end game" was to be part of the staff just to get some kind of ego stroke.
Nope, its posts like yours above that strokes my ego quite enough for any e-fun I get in places like this, because the fact you come up with such fanciful fiction to come up with something, ANYTHING to flame me just exposes how frustrated and butthurt you are all because I continue to call a spade a spade and mock that sad thing you call a life(?).
Speaking of which how's baby mama this weekend any how? What chemical did she put in her body the last couple of days to try to escape the life she has made for herself?
Neither of us drink or otherwise get fucked up. She never was the type, and I gave all that up long before our son was even conceived. Nice try, though. Keep up the personal attacks. They certainly do a great job of demonstrating your hypocrisy and shattering your insistence that the butthurt rests on every ass but your own.
And, that "sad little thing that *I* call a life" is actually quite awesome. I don't need to go into details that you'll inevitably and assuredly contest anyway, because you have a cumpulsion to convince yourself and anyone deluded enough to listen that you know the first thing about quality of my life, but let's just say that my reality > your fiction.
That aside, you obviously think you know what's best for this community. Damn near every post of yours that I've ever read contained critique or criticism of the site(s) or staff. You've mentioned repeatedly and consistently the perceived failings of mods and admins and proclaimed to know beyond all doubt how to fix the problems they created.
If that doesn't sound like a political campaign for a mod panel, then I don't know what does.
Or would you rather have Spectral do your dirty work?
Ell Oh Fuckin Ell...
More fanciful bullshit, and outright lies.
In regard to your baby mama, years ago when you split up with her....you claimed it was "all for the best" and you really didn't want her around your son until she "cleaned up her act". So if she wasn't drinking or drugging, just WTF was she doing? Robbing banks?
And where in the fuck are you coming up with this idiocy in regards to..."all you do is critique the site and mods" ??? I haven't done that at all, in fact the ONLY commentary I've made about site politics is SUPPORTING Arnox's belief that any thanks/rep feature is stupid and detrimental to growing the website properly. But here you are now prattling on about me giving the staff grief, when nothing could be further from the truth. You are an idiot...through and through.
do you keep files on all your online foes like J. Edgar Hoover? Do you have a wall in your room with notes and pins with pieces of yarn connecting the pins to help you keep track of all your bullshit?
do you keep files on all your online foes like J. Edgar Hoover? Do you have a wall in your room with notes and pins with pieces of yarn connecting the pins to help you keep track of all your bullshit?
Nah, nothing so elaborate like your latest fairy tale. Its just that I have morals and principles in this world, and one of my pet peeves is lousy parenting because they are a scurge to society and one of the reasons the world is spiralling out of control. Especially when someone calls me out for my parenting, since its coming from some redneck hilljack that has made such a mess of their own household and needed half the town to help take care of his own kids.