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Nature => The Great Outdoors => Topic started by: Eli on September 17, 2014, 05:50:29 am

Title: I discovered a new plant?!?!
Post by: Eli on September 17, 2014, 05:50:29 am
Ok so lemme describe this motherfucker...

Looks like grimace. yeah from the mcd crew. deep purple rubbery lookin body with bright red berries attached to it. has two leaves that split into three leaves. CANNTOT FIND ON INTERWEBZ

wtf is this? ONLy seen two in my whole life and that was when I was adventruing while i was high as fuck and though it was a spy cam that the govt put there. then i picked it. 

BTW i went and picked it when i was sober so yes it does exist in reality....try to get pics.

BTW im in MINNEsoda.
Title: Re: I discovered a new plant?!?!
Post by: SupremeGentleman on September 17, 2014, 05:57:04 am
Got a photo m8
Title: Re: I discovered a new plant?!?!
Post by: Eli on September 17, 2014, 06:11:20 am
I dont have a cell phone or digital camera.

ima simple man. but maybe I can borrow a cell phone and take a selfie of this shriveled up piece of plant matter that might be faintly recognizable

:)
Title: Re: I discovered a new plant?!?!
Post by: Umbrella Corp on September 17, 2014, 07:45:49 am
Take a selfie?  You just outted yourself as a plant brah.
Title: Re: I discovered a new plant?!?!
Post by: SupremeGentleman on September 17, 2014, 07:54:18 am
I dont have a cell phone or digital camera.

ima simple man. but maybe I can borrow a cell phone and take a selfie of this shriveled up piece of plant matter that might be faintly recognizable

:)

Glad to see there are still people staunch enough to boycott such technologies
Title: Re: I discovered a new plant?!?!
Post by: Eli on September 17, 2014, 06:27:04 pm
I dont have a cell phone or digital camera.

ima simple man. but maybe I can borrow a cell phone and take a selfie of this shriveled up piece of plant matter that might be faintly recognizable

:)

Glad to see there are still people staunch enough to boycott such technologies

And the funny thing is that Im 24...and went to college for IT tech.  I just cant believe the distraction these little devices have become. People need to use their phone as a PHONE and wander out in the woods sometime and just enjoy the earth.
Title: Re: I discovered a new plant?!?!
Post by: Eli on September 17, 2014, 06:27:36 pm
Take a selfie?  You just outted yourself as a plant brah.

hmm maybe ill take a selfie with the plant?
Title: Re: I discovered a new plant?!?!
Post by: mashleshmash on September 17, 2014, 06:29:29 pm
ok
Title: Re: I discovered a new plant?!?!
Post by: millionsofdeadcats on September 17, 2014, 06:37:10 pm
Take it to your local agricultural extension office.  If they can't ID it, leave your contact info and see if they get back to you.  If they don't, call them.  The federal government is mostly fucking incompetent, but unless you find a botanist or some shit, IDK what other advice to give.
Title: Re: I discovered a new plant?!?!
Post by: RisiR on September 17, 2014, 06:40:03 pm
Yea, this thread is useless without pictures. Could very well be a mutant if it was a single plant.
Title: Re: I discovered a new plant?!?!
Post by: Eli on September 17, 2014, 06:41:01 pm
well im working on trying to get a fuckin pic of this thing up...its not easy these days. Plus im using Linux Mint so Idk what compatibility issues I might have
Title: Re: I discovered a new plant?!?!
Post by: Max Headroom on September 17, 2014, 06:43:07 pm
probably datura
Title: Re: I discovered a new plant?!?!
Post by: millionsofdeadcats on September 17, 2014, 06:48:35 pm

probably datura

Wrong, because....

bright red berries
Title: Re: I discovered a new plant?!?!
Post by: Eli on September 17, 2014, 11:05:46 pm
It doesnt have any like flower leaves....just 2 stems that break into three leaves like a T...dont have the leaves tho just the main part. ugh fuckin cameras. ill have one up by tonight guys. really wanna figure this out.
Title: Re: I discovered a new plant?!?!
Post by: fanglekai on September 17, 2014, 11:13:26 pm
Take pictures. Go to a local university. Ask a botanist there if there is one.
Title: Re: I discovered a new plant?!?!
Post by: Eli on September 18, 2014, 08:36:55 pm
ok so i took pic. how do i post on here??

do i really need to upload to pic sharing site first or something?
Title: Re: I discovered a new plant?!?!
Post by: Vulture on September 18, 2014, 08:42:52 pm
Try to get a close up of:

1. The fruit
2. The leaves
3. The buds
do i really need to upload to pic sharing site first or something?
Yes.
Title: Re: I discovered a new plant?!?!
Post by: Eli on September 19, 2014, 12:04:10 am
(http://i60.tinypic.com/r90utc.jpg)

Hope that works. Thats the top of the plant...dont have the leaves or stem anymore. But the stem connected to it where the bigger part is by the two red "berries" the berries covered the whole thing and connected where each of those little red dots are on the purple thing. IDK wtf it is.
Title: Re: I discovered a new plant?!?!
Post by: fanglekai on September 19, 2014, 12:10:24 am
omfg you just destroyed a rare plant specimen!!!!!
Title: Re: I discovered a new plant?!?!
Post by: millionsofdeadcats on September 19, 2014, 12:14:19 am
It is definitely a succulent or cactus, could be a juvenile of some species, but I cannot find exactly what this one is.  I would say it looks like a juvenile 'apple cactus' but it is flat like a prickly pear, not a columnar cactus.  I will look a bit more.
Title: Re: I discovered a new plant?!?!
Post by: RisiR on September 19, 2014, 12:32:45 am
Quote
is definitely a succulent or cactus
Yup.
Title: Re: I discovered a new plant?!?!
Post by: Eli on September 19, 2014, 12:36:54 am
It is definitely a succulent or cactus, could be a juvenile of some species, but I cannot find exactly what this one is.  I would say it looks like a juvenile 'apple cactus' but it is flat like a prickly pear, not a columnar cactus.  I will look a bit more.

well when it was alive it was completely round and more "puffed out" its gotten really small and flat since i picked it. the fruit was about 4" long and the plant total was like a foot tall. there was only one in the area and like a mile away there was another one. never seen it before in my life. oh and its like all hollow inside.

thanks for the help.
Title: Re: I discovered a new plant?!?!
Post by: RisiR on September 19, 2014, 12:39:16 am
So you just ripped it out or the ground and killed it? Great.
Title: Re: I discovered a new plant?!?!
Post by: Eli on September 19, 2014, 12:41:27 am
it was found in the shade of a forest...pretty humid, like qtr mile from a river and qtr mile from a lagoon. kinda right between the two. actually they both were found like that. and it had two stems for leaves that came from the base of the plant like a V but with the plant stem going right in the middle. and the end of the leaf stem it branched into three leaves.

forgot to mention it was found in MN
Title: Re: I discovered a new plant?!?!
Post by: millionsofdeadcats on September 19, 2014, 12:41:39 am
My money is on some native opuntia variant, but here are some pictures of similar cactus and succulents for comparison sake. 

Apple cactus

(http://i58.tinypic.com/35d83vd.jpg)


Purple prickly pear

(http://i60.tinypic.com/54276.jpg)


Opuntia species

(http://i58.tinypic.com/2zpmjx5.jpg)

(http://i57.tinypic.com/bitd3.jpg)

(http://i61.tinypic.com/iefrqa.jpg)

(http://i58.tinypic.com/29pyfqt.jpg)
Title: Re: I discovered a new plant?!?!
Post by: Eli on September 19, 2014, 12:45:08 am
So you just ripped it out or the ground and killed it? Great.

yeah one of them. nobody beilieved they thought i was trippin or some shit so i had to bring it out of the woods. theres another one tho.
Title: Re: I discovered a new plant?!?!
Post by: Eli on September 19, 2014, 12:46:39 am
it looks nothing like those pics tho. it had leaves like  a plant would and those red things were like little berries...it was covered in them. the first one i found had lost like half of the red berries so i was able to see the deep purple color. the second one had all the berries and it was bright red. i went back like 4 days later and picked it, it had lost all berries except those two.
Title: Re: I discovered a new plant?!?!
Post by: RisiR on September 19, 2014, 12:48:00 am
So you just ripped it out or the ground and killed it? Great.

yeah one of them. nobody beilieved they thought i was trippin or some shit so i had to bring it out of the woods. theres another one tho.
Check out a botany forum. They'll be of more help.
Title: Re: I discovered a new plant?!?!
Post by: millionsofdeadcats on September 19, 2014, 12:48:58 am
it looks nothing like those pics tho. it had leaves like  a plant would and those red things were like little berries...it was covered in them. the first one i found had lost like half of the red berries so i was able to see the deep purple color. the second one had all the berries and it was bright red. i went back like 4 days later and picked it, it had lost all berries except those two.

I know it looks nothing like the pics, but species wise it looks very similar to an opuntia.  There are thousands of different variants of opuntia, not to mention hybrids and shit.  Could be just about anything, it is really fucking hard to identify plants even with pictures.  I'd say there is only a fifty percent chance we will ID it without a botanist or a hardcore plant nerd.  Any around?

Oh yeah, those aren't berries, they are 'fruits' or inflorescences.
Title: Re: I discovered a new plant?!?!
Post by: Eli on September 19, 2014, 12:51:38 am
it was like 2-3x this size...and the stem came out where those two berries are which are like the size of peas. Stem was similar in thickness as a pencil or maybe even a sharpie.

(http://i61.tinypic.com/oks68j.jpg)
Title: Re: I discovered a new plant?!?!
Post by: Eli on September 19, 2014, 12:53:24 am
it looks nothing like those pics tho. it had leaves like  a plant would and those red things were like little berries...it was covered in them. the first one i found had lost like half of the red berries so i was able to see the deep purple color. the second one had all the berries and it was bright red. i went back like 4 days later and picked it, it had lost all berries except those two.

I know it looks nothing like the pics, but species wise it looks very similar to an opuntia.  There are thousands of different variants of opuntia, not to mention hybrids and shit.  Could be just about anything, it is really fucking hard to identify plants even with pictures.  I'd say there is only a fifty percent chance we will ID it without a botanist or a hardcore plant nerd.  Any around?

Oh yeah, those aren't berries, they are 'fruits' or inflorescences.

ah ok.

well its all good i was just curious about it since ive never seen it before. i appreciate the help tho. maybe in a year after winter and all that shit ill try to find another one and have an expert or something take a look at it.
Title: Re: I discovered a new plant?!?!
Post by: millionsofdeadcats on September 19, 2014, 01:01:30 am
When I first moved to indiana I saw an animal I never saw before.  The slugs that I remember growing up in the mahoning valley were small and tan.  The slug I encountered the first week I lived here was fully eight inches long, spotted like a leopard, and had a vaguely predatory shape. 

I freaked the fuck out and caught it, and took it to the local extension office.   I walked in all wide-eyed and earnest, and told the lady I found a very wierd species of slug, and gave her the box I had it in.  I left my number for them to call me and tell me what it was, but they never did.  I found out a day or two later that these were common local slugs and the people at the extension office probably laughed at my dumb ass.
Title: Re: I discovered a new plant?!?!
Post by: Eli on September 19, 2014, 01:09:02 am
When I first moved to indiana I saw an animal I never saw before.  The slugs that I remember growing up in the mahoning valley were small and tan.  The slug I encountered the first week I lived here was fully eight inches long, spotted like a leopard, and had a vaguely predatory shape. 

I freaked the fuck out and caught it, and took it to the local extension office.   I walked in all wide-eyed and earnest, and told the lady I found a very wierd species of slug, and gave her the box I had it in.  I left my number for them to call me and tell me what it was, but they never did.  I found out a day or two later that these were common local slugs and the people at the extension office probably laughed at my dumb ass.

lmao that shits funny....zomfg look what i found!!!!

yeah theyre everywhere....LMAO.

But ive lived in mn for 20 out of 24 years of my life and always lived in the woods pretty much. first time ever seeing anything even close to this. so colorful compared to all the green and brown i usually see.
Title: Re: I discovered a new plant?!?!
Post by: millionsofdeadcats on September 19, 2014, 01:13:51 am
lmao that shits funny....zomfg look what i found!!!!

yeah theyre everywhere....LMAO.

But ive lived in mn for 20 out of 24 years of my life and always lived in the woods pretty much. first time ever seeing anything even close to this. so colorful compared to all the green and brown i usually see.

What I want to fucking know is, why a slug needs leopard spots.  What, was it hiding in the tall grass to jump a wildebeest or some shit?  What the fuck?
Title: Re: I discovered a new plant?!?!
Post by: Eli on September 19, 2014, 02:25:52 am
to hide from timone and pumba of course
Title: Re: I discovered a new plant?!?!
Post by: Vulture on September 19, 2014, 03:28:40 am
Jack in the pulpit.

The mutant cactus-looking thing is the dried remnant of one of these:

(http://www.easttennesseewildflowers.com/gallery/var/albums/fruits/Copy_of_Jack_in_the_Pulpit_berries2.jpg?m=1348888782)
Title: Re: I discovered a new plant?!?!
Post by: Vulture on September 19, 2014, 03:31:56 am
Here's the plant in bloom showing the stem structure described:

(http://www.minnesotawildflowers.info/udata/r9ndp23q/green/jack-in-the-pulpit-100_5034.jpg)

Fun game: Find someone you don't like and convince them to eat a jack in the pulpit root raw. There's enough oxalic acid in there to choke a horse.
Title: Re: I discovered a new plant?!?!
Post by: millionsofdeadcats on September 19, 2014, 03:33:31 am
Jack in the pulpit.

The mutant cactus-looking thing is the dried remnant of one of these:

(http://www.easttennesseewildflowers.com/gallery/var/albums/fruits/Copy_of_Jack_in_the_Pulpit_berries2.jpg?m=1348888782)

nice one...so they were berries after all heh!
Title: Re: I discovered a new plant?!?!
Post by: Vulture on September 19, 2014, 03:36:42 am
My plant-fu east of the Mississippi is over 9000. ;D
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Post by: fanglekai on September 19, 2014, 03:57:37 am
Here's the plant in bloom showing the stem structure described:

(http://www.minnesotawildflowers.info/udata/r9ndp23q/green/jack-in-the-pulpit-100_5034.jpg)

Fun game: Find someone you don't like and convince them to eat a jack in the pulpit root raw. There's enough oxalic acid in there to choke a horse.

I use Barkeepers friend to clean the ceramic stones I use to sharpen knives, because the oxalic acid works to dissolve steel particles. Not something I'd want in my mouth.
Title: Re: I discovered a new plant?!?!
Post by: John Smith on September 19, 2014, 04:02:34 am
Smoke the berries and see if you get high.
Title: Re: I discovered a new plant?!?!
Post by: Eli on September 19, 2014, 04:07:21 am
Finally.. thank you so much Vulture!! Thats exactly what it is...I was hoping someone would be able to understand my fucked up description of the leaves and shit.

Feels so good to finally know what this fuckin thing is...Thank you again
Title: Re: I discovered a new plant?!?!
Post by: Eli on September 19, 2014, 04:09:04 am
And when I ripped off that top piece there were these whitish clear fuzzy crystals all over and inside the hollow top thing and I guess those were oxalic acid crystals. Lol good thing I didnt do some dumb shit and try to eat it or smoke em or somethin...
Title: Re: I discovered a new plant?!?!
Post by: Eli on September 19, 2014, 04:11:05 am
http://www.wildflower.org/plants/result.php?id_plant=ARTR

Thats exactly what it is...the growing conditions and everything are spot on.
Thanks again man.
Title: Re: I discovered a new plant?!?!
Post by: Rowan on September 19, 2014, 04:16:03 am
Seems that they are not very costly to buy online, actually not very rare and thrive in nearly any climate! An amazing plant.

http://www.everwilde.com/store/Arisaema-triphyllum-WildFlower-Seed.html (http://www.everwilde.com/store/Arisaema-triphyllum-WildFlower-Seed.html)
Title: Re: I discovered a new plant?!?!
Post by: bling bling on November 02, 2014, 03:02:13 am
smoke it smoke it

toke it toke it

break it break it

sell it sell it
Title: Re: I discovered a new plant?!?!
Post by: bling bling on November 02, 2014, 03:24:30 am
smoke it toke it deal it break it
Title: Re: I discovered a new plant?!?!
Post by: mashleshmash on November 02, 2014, 07:27:07 am
I'm glad the question has been resolved.


bling you're gonna get so banned breh