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Carnality => Better Living Through Chemistry => Topic started by: mojo4567 on September 14, 2014, 03:23:32 pm
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a pretty good guide to a basic Speed synthesis. This is only for knowledge, not use. i have never even attempted this at all ;)
http://www.scribd.com/doc/29100750/Amphetamine-Sulphate-Synthesis (http://www.scribd.com/doc/29100750/Amphetamine-Sulphate-Synthesis)
The only thing that i would change is the glass funnel shit is stupid. please use a condensor. When he says thick foil, think pie tins cut up. Sourcing P2NP is the hardest part, but if you are comfortable with using the deeb web then agora has plenty of places to find precursors.
if you have any questions fire away.
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My character in my book only got 3 gram yield. Anyone else get more?
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My pet spider saw this year's ago but never tried it, then lost the writeup. He is extremely grateful that you posted this now that he is much better at reading it.
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Better you wouldn't do that sysh writeup by word. The basics mentioned there are true, but the result will be a very impure reddish product that contains every trash you can imagine. Most of them were formed until heating the solution after the "stormy reaction" is over (to improve the yield). Sure, waste is also some kind of yield. ;D
There are serval ways to get rid of the impurities when the reaction is over. The best method is doing a steam-distillation, followed by an A/B extraction, and then cristallyze your product. If it has dried in the air, do a final wash with acetone and dry again. I must admit that is not as easy and cheap to do, but finally you will receive a much cleaner, better and stronger product.
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wash the salt with non polar solvent and call it a day
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is this SNB?
luv dat shit
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is MINERAL SPIRITS a good np solvent?? like better than colemans hahaaa??
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is MINERAL SPIRITS a good np solvent?? like better than colemans hahaaa??
toluene or xylene are the best FOR THIS PURPOSE
those solvents have their places, washing isn't one of them
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i thought toluene was good for washing.....not rxn.
in terms of rxn or cook or w/e u call it....mineral spirits would be better than colemans and naphtha right?
i used to read snb where ppl would use fuckin coleman fuel when they could just get a gallon of mineral spirrits for the same price and same availability...
NOW I DO understand this isnt a snb synth i was just using as exaple
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i thought toluene was good for washing.....not rxn.
in terms of rxn or cook or w/e u call it....mineral spirits would be better than colemans and naphtha right?
i used to read snb where ppl would use fuckin coleman fuel when they could just get a gallon of mineral spirrits for the same price and same availability...
NOW I DO understand this isnt a snb synth i was just using as exaple
actually i or anyone i know have no clue on shake and bake reactions and don't plan on getting a clue about them
but all those solvents are almost the same thing. they are all petroleum naphtha distillates. some may or may not have additives
happy tweaking
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If you're looking for a better synth-instruction, check this out:
http://remixshare.com/download/gy2qi
This one starts with makeing P2NP
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i thought toluene was good for washing.....not rxn.
in terms of rxn or cook or w/e u call it....mineral spirits would be better than colemans and naphtha right?
i used to read snb where ppl would use fuckin coleman fuel when they could just get a gallon of mineral spirrits for the same price and same availability...
NOW I DO understand this isnt a snb synth i was just using as exaple
actually i or anyone i know have no clue on shake and bake reactions and don't plan on getting a clue about them
but all those solvents are almost the same thing. they are all petroleum naphtha distillates. some may or may not have additives
happy tweaking
bro i know u.
research concludes.....i know u.
u answered my question about Li and PSE ratio...hahaa knew it.
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If you're looking for a better synth-instruction, check this out:
http://remixshare.com/download/gy2qi
This one starts with makeing P2NP
from reading his other posts i think it would be alot better off if he just puts away his lab and his chemicals, buys a few books and learns first
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i thought toluene was good for washing.....not rxn.
in terms of rxn or cook or w/e u call it....mineral spirits would be better than colemans and naphtha right?
i used to read snb where ppl would use fuckin coleman fuel when they could just get a gallon of mineral spirrits for the same price and same availability...
NOW I DO understand this isnt a snb synth i was just using as exaple
actually i or anyone i know have no clue on shake and bake reactions and don't plan on getting a clue about them
but all those solvents are almost the same thing. they are all petroleum naphtha distillates. some may or may not have additives
happy tweaking
bro i know u.
research concludes.....i know u.
u answered my question about Li and PSE ratio...hahaa knew it.
haha, that is correct. bee safe out there
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P2np is dirt cheap in Europe........ Pretty sure it'd be easy enough to find someone willing to post you some ;)
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Obviously im not a great chemist but im competent enough to know some stuff and be able to do some synths. Any reccomends for furthering my knowledge? I have read almost every book in my essential books post and have studied lots of erowid shroomery and rhodium.
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school children would love the after-product!
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So many things that one can improve, do better, in this write up that it isnt even funny anymore.
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1. get adderall prescription
2. crush up pills
3. sell it to people as orange/blue speed powder (such breaking bad wow) in little plastic baggies, it'll already be diluted enough from the filler to be cut for profit
4. sell 20mg adderalls to people in powder form for 10$ each "hey do you have a point on you man?"
5. throw a pinch of AM-2000DEATH in one out of every 20 bags for lulz, and to keep them coming because they're always hoping to get a"really strong batch"
6. kill them
7.kill yourself
8. huff raid
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So many things that one can improve, do better, in this write up that it isnt even funny anymore.
This is even mine lol. It could be better but it is ready to understand and helps us chemistry noobs learn
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Still a noob myself and always willing to learn. :)
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Obviously im not a great chemist but im competent enough to know some stuff and be able to do some synths. Any reccomends for furthering my knowledge? I have read almost every book in my essential books post and have studied lots of erowid shroomery and rhodium.
buying a high school chemistry book, and saving your money until you really know what you're doing.
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Obviously im not a great chemist but im competent enough to know some stuff and be able to do some synths. Any reccomends for furthering my knowledge? I have read almost every book in my essential books post and have studied lots of erowid shroomery and rhodium.
buying a high school chemistry book, and saving your money until you really know what you're doing.
Meh my book character hasnt blown himself up yet and learns alot from his chem sesh's so he figures he cant be doing that bad. Plus highschoolers dont realize that speed /=/ cocaine so this market is a racket.
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Obviously im not a great chemist but im competent enough to know some stuff and be able to do some synths. Any reccomends for furthering my knowledge? I have read almost every book in my essential books post and have studied lots of erowid shroomery and rhodium.
buying a high school chemistry book, and saving your money until you really know what you're doing.
Meh my book character hasnt blown himself up yet and learns alot from his chem sesh's so he figures he cant be doing that bad. Plus highschoolers dont realize that speed /=/ cocaine so this market is a racket.
Books are "ok". But thats all they are. Books. Just like driving a car. One will never truely know what they are doing until they sit in the drivers seat for the first time. :)
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Obviously im not a great chemist but im competent enough to know some stuff and be able to do some synths. Any reccomends for furthering my knowledge? I have read almost every book in my essential books post and have studied lots of erowid shroomery and rhodium.
buying a high school chemistry book, and saving your money until you really know what you're doing.
Meh my book character hasnt blown himself up yet and learns alot from his chem sesh's so he figures he cant be doing that bad. Plus highschoolers dont realize that speed /=/ cocaine so this market is a racket.
well dont be surprised if no one helps you if you cannot help yourself
some of the questions you ask can be fully understood with a few hours time and 2 or 3 pages of reading. fully understanding vs just reading a recipe are two different things
learn chemistry or be doomed to fail
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I posted this somewhere else on the forum a while back but can't find it fight now.
Group 1 (the naive baker): They know they need to add sodium bicarbonate to the batter because the recipe book tells them to. They are totally dependent on full guidance from the recipe otherwise their cake will be a disaster!
Group 2 (the practical baker): They know to add sodium bicarbonate to the batter because it is needed to make the cake rise. They know the practical value of adding this ingredient without understanding how it works. If baking soda is missing from the recipe then they might question how the cake will rise. Further deviation from the recipe may be a problem though.
Group 3 (the savvy baker): They know that sodium bicarbonate decomposes when heated to release carbon dioxide gas which helps the cake to rise. They know the practical value of baking soda and also have a general understanding of how it makes the cake rise. Knowing this they can experiment with the recipe to optimize the final product.
Group 4 (baker bees): They understand not only that sodium bicarbonate gives yields carbon dioxide gas but also the reactive mechanism involved. They are also aware that a byproduct of this reaction is sodium carbonate which may make the final cake's pH too basic. This full awareness allows them to experiment fully with the method, substitute baking soda for other suitable leavening agents, and even explore novel methods for making a perfectly risen cake.
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I posted this somewhere else on the forum a while back but can't find it fight now.
Group 1 (the naive baker): They know they need to add sodium bicarbonate to the batter because the recipe book tells them to. They are totally dependent on full guidance from the recipe otherwise their cake will be a disaster!
Group 2 (the practical baker): They know to add sodium bicarbonate to the batter because it is needed to make the cake rise. They know the practical value of adding this ingredient without understanding how it works. If baking soda is missing from the recipe then they might question how the cake will rise. Further deviation from the recipe may be a problem though.
Group 3 (the savvy baker): They know that sodium bicarbonate decomposes when heated to release carbon dioxide gas which helps the cake to rise. They know the practical value of baking soda and also have a general understanding of how it makes the cake rise. Knowing this they can experiment with the recipe to optimize the final product.
Group 4 (baker bees): They understand not only that sodium bicarbonate gives yields carbon dioxide gas but also the reactive mechanism involved. They are also aware that a byproduct of this reaction is sodium carbonate which may make the final cake's pH too basic. This full awareness allows them to experiment fully with the method, substitute baking soda for other suitable leavening agents, and even explore novel methods for making a perfectly risen cake.
And then there's the people who make the cash.
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No one is going to want to buy more than an 8 ball if your product is already garbage before its cut
Good luck, most people are either dead or in prison before 10 thousand dollars
Youre gunna need alot of 8 balls to even make 5 grand, thats alot of deals, and being that low on the food chain, you are also the most vulnerable
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No one is going to want to buy more than an 8 ball if your product is already garbage before its cut
Good luck, most people are either dead or in prison before 10 thousand dollars
Youre gunna need alot of 8 balls to even make 5 grand, thats alot of deals, and being that low on the food chain, you are also the most vulnerable
Dude like I said highschool students dont know or care. Im not looking to make it big time either, I need college o chem under my belt before I even think about messing round with large cash.
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No one is going to want to buy more than an 8 ball if your product is already garbage before its cut
Good luck, most people are either dead or in prison before 10 thousand dollars
Youre gunna need alot of 8 balls to even make 5 grand, thats alot of deals, and being that low on the food chain, you are also the most vulnerable
10k dollars? Bless these little shotters haha. Don't climb anyone's ladder, build your fucking own!
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Exactly why I wanna be a chemist. Drug dealing is little money compared to making.
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Pretty much, you know you're getting everything at cost as the chemist, therefore always getting the best deals. You control the quality of product on the market, volume, easy of access, etc. You have the control, you have the power.
That or some dealer thats already huge kidnaps you and forces you to cook for him
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10k dollars? Bless these little shotters haha. Don't climb anyone's ladder, build your fucking own!
some people live in places where you start moving some product someone else is going to have a problem with you cutting into their customer base
thats what stepping on toes is, even though you so called "chemists" think big timers dont have rivalry, it does exist, and not only for street level dealers.
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Yah but you have to admit its easier to make it as a chemist than a dealer
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Yah but you have to admit its easier to make it as a chemist than a dealer
yeah, but people who buy from chemists dont want dealer quality product
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Yes thats true. Fourtunantly chemistry is still a hobby for me mainly, I severly lack in enough skills to go full scale
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Yes thats true. Fourtunantly chemistry is still a hobby for me mainly, I severly lack in enough skills to go full scale
best of luck to you or any of your book characters futures