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Carnality => Better Living Through Chemistry => Topic started by: STD on September 09, 2014, 04:34:31 am
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A bunch of interesting benzos, some discovered back in the 60's and only recently "rediscovered" with the new structural analogue craze. Other are quite new.
I may have these, so ask away. There's not a lot of info on some of these out there and I think this is a fitting first post for me in the new BLTC. I'm yet to try a specific trip on only one of these benzos, mostly due to possible self medication to deal with a lot of anxiety and stress and several new jobs.
Pyrazolam is new and not very researched, but is an anxiolytic at the same dose of alprazolam (their chemical structures are basically the same, Google for pyrazolam if you want.)
Etizolam I think there's enough other report out there for you to Google yourself. Generally some love it, some hate it, it seems, it either euphoric more than other benzos or not; I can't say for sure right now.
Diclazepam is also known as something like desmethyldiazepam; it's the active metabolite of diazepam. It has a half life of about 106 hours (just over 4 days), and per milligram is 10x the strength of equivalent diazepam.
Flubromazepam is about per milligram strength as diazepam. BUT... It's closest relative is phenazepam - yes, this is another benzo with a half life of 110-200 hours (a week),
My friend's came in high quality, film coated, scored pills with all chemical data associated.
I'll post experiments on these as I come across them ;)
Hello to all the new and old face :)
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Also, wikipedia has a good spreadsheet for this:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_benzodiazepines
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How's flubromazepam? I am thinking of getting some.
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Which one would best assist with getting some sleep after a night of fun with lady Crystal? She tends to keep you awake long after you've had your fun with her.
Do any of them have a low blackout dose, or a tendency to cause blackouts at low doses or combined with stims?
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How's flubromazepam? I am thinking of getting some.
I take 8mg before bed (at about 3AM), takes 4 hours to act, 8 hours for effect onset, so I get a good morning, like a chill valium high, day, next day, because I or my friend hasn't had these benzos for more than a week or so, at the moment I've been mixing the benzos, soon I'll go party and test out each one.
Anxiolytic, some more likley to cause you to trip and fall, one at least nukes your memory (pyrazolam probably), flubromazepam used by a kid is like giving a 500mg pure powder bag of phenzepam to someone who has tried weed a few times and "knows what they can handle." Eats pack of 50 x8mg in 8 hours. Effects hit. Weeks GONE. There's going to be stories.
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Fuck, maybe IV midazolam.
I use a tiny bit of seroquel or mirtazapine. Benzos don't do jack shit when I'm on a heap of meth. You've got to know when to pull the plug on a meth binge by taking a strong antihistamine, otherwise you'll fuck up. Guaranteed.
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How's flubromazepam? I am thinking of getting some.
I have taken 8mg the last two nights, given the time to action is 1-4 hours and the onset of effects is 1-8 or something, but I wake up feeling great, no anxiety. At first my driving sucked, but I think I'd been mixing the other two benzos that time (KIDS DON'T FUCKING DO THAT I WAS A DICK HEAD DRIVING LIKE THAT.)
Haven't really tried it clean yet though, with some big new changes in my life I'm also taking daily lorazepam 1-2mg and the occasional 2mg clonazepam to get through it.
Hey, it got me the job LIKE A BOSS.
I plan to lay off the clonazepam and lorazepam now, and see if the flubro does it for me and what happens, then try the pyrazolam, and diclazepam when it arrives. Been decently hard on weed lately too, no liquor for months.. gave me a few other of their free samples that sound very interesting, but I'll make a new thread for them sometime. Pics too :)
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Well, another 8mg flubpromazepam and 150mg fluvoxamine tonight. 150 more of the latter in the morning for OCD and it does help a bit for anxiety.
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Flubromazepam:
(http://i.imgur.com/kZyNAVk.jpg)
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So far, nothing beats clonazepam.
Must... test... more.
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subbing for question later.
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Nothing beats that good first cone after you're on a buzz of clonazepam.
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Diclazepam is also known as something like desmethyldiazepam; it's the active metabolite of diazepam.
This is wrong.
Diclazepam was known as 2'-chloro-diazepam and Chlorodiazepam but that 2'-chloro part scared some people because its cousin 4'-chloro-diazepam was a horrible drug without affinity for GABA-A receptors and therefor an anxiogenic instead of an anxiolytic. They dropped the chlor part to sell it better. Diclazepam just sounds better.
It also does not metabolize into diazepam and is active itself. Its metabolites are delorazepam, lorazepam, and lormetazepam.
I think you got that a bit mixed up.
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also does not metabolize into diazepam and is active itself. Its metabolites are delorazepam, lorazepam, and lormetazepam.
I think you got that a bit mixed up.
I think we both got mixed up, I was saying diazepam metabolises into desmethyldiazepam which I believe is another name for diclazepam, which is why sites specify the half life of diazepam's "active metabolites" being so long. And yes, it's active by itself and the name is an improvement :)
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My tolerance to benzos is so fucking high I really don't feel anything from diclazepam, is it pretty much a valium like high? I bought it to try and taper off the fucking benz and it has the highest half life of any benzo I can get (unless some one wants to hook me up wit a flubro source). It's pretty awersome, since I'm awful at managing money and amount of the drugs I have, I'll realize I only have one more dose of diclaz left in my bottle (i buy it in liquid form) and that one dose if I split it in half it'll keep the withdrawals away for the most part (not completely) while I wait the three days for my new batch to arrive.
Etizolam is fun and the best benzo I've tried when I was still able to feel the full effects, but in the long run its the fucking devil once you get hooked with its short half life you'll be wanting to dose after like 5 hours or so to feel normal again.
Remember, be careful with benzos, well all drugs, but especially benzos cos the withdrawals are fucking awful and you'll have a seizure possibly if you don't get your fix. OP and myself can attest to this, his might have been alcohol related though but I think it was from benzo withdrawal.
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To me Dicla is more hypnotic and heavy than Diazepam and not as happy go lucky.
You could try Phenazepam for the half-life if you can't get some flubromazepam.
Are you from the US?
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To me Dicla is more hypnotic and heavy than Diazepam and not as happy go lucky.
You could try Phenazepam for the half-life if you can't get some flubromazepam.
Are you from the US?
yeah i'm from the US. I've tried Phenaz but it was only in powder form at the time (like 2 years ago) which I wasn't fond of, nor its extremely long onset. What is its half life anyway I know its really really long.
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I'm sorry but I'm not familiar with US vendors.
Phenaz has like 200 hours or something like that.
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Wiki says 60 hours but I guess it metabolizes into lots of other stuff.
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Well, I haven't taken a benzo for several days and still feel nice, I think the flubromazepam and its 110-200 hour half life is proving its' worth.
I got another 25 of each today, including the late diclazepam, and some 5-HTP bonuses. Will be trying the benzos on their own starting with the shortest half life ones this week :D
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Well, I haven't taken a benzo for several days and still feel nice, I think the flubromazepam and its 110-200 hour half life is proving its' worth.
I got another 25 of each today, including the late diclazepam, and some 5-HTP bonuses. Will be trying the benzos on their own starting with the shortest half life ones this week :D
why do you say the "late" diclazepam? Banned in Aussieland?
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why do you say the "late" diclazepam? Banned in Aussieland?
Nah just that part of the order was late.
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Looks like I lost my whole fucking bag of flubromazepam. Fucking expensive shit.
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Looks like I lost my whole fucking bag of flubromazepam. Fucking expensive shit.
Don't risk it man, split up your stash. Losing 100 pills in jeans I lost wasn't my happiest moment.
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Looks like I lost my whole fucking bag of flubromazepam. Fucking expensive shit.
Don't risk it man, split up your stash. Losing 100 pills in jeans I lost wasn't my happiest moment.
I had my Pyraz, Diclaz and the Flubros all in one drawer but only the Flubros are gone and there's no way I ate them because I'm not benzo'd at all. Not even a bit.
Tomorrow I'll search for them because they just can't be gone. I'm probably haunted by a junkie ghost.
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I was missing one of my 5x items on first delivery, I'm assuming some customs officer is fucked on diclazepam at the moment. Thats what I'd assume unless you're sure you had it.
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No man, I had the baggy in my hand and popped some of them a couple days ago.
It's funny when the postman brings you drugs. I once ordered all kinds of tryptamines and 2c's and I thought to myself
"Dude you have the fucking portals to a million dimensions in your hands right now and don't even know it" It was a powerful feeling.
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Good info in this thread guys. Haiti if you still need sauce for flubro hit me up i only got a powder form sauce though so that might not be your cup of tea.
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I'd just like to say I took 40mg flubro in 24 hours and I was high for fuckin DAYS.
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Yea, that's what it do.
FUCK, I'll hunt down that shit right the fuck now.
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It's official, I'm retarded. I've lost a baggy with bright orange pills in a single room. They never fucking left this room and I surely didn't take +200 mg of Flubromazepam. This is bad. Fuck.
I'm so fucking pissed right now. Where are my fucking pills goddammit?!
:'(
C'mon, I often lose stuff but I never lose drugs. Fucking neon colored drugs. Fuck me.
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Fucking hate bump.
I have chest pain now. I think this shit gives me a heart attack. I fucking deserve it.
If I don't post anymore in the next week change my avatar to an orange pill and celebrate my death.
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1. Whats your top 3 benzos out of them all :-\
2. Diclazepam vs. Diazepam :-\
3. Half shit says grapefruit potentiates/enlongates half don't I drank some with mine anyway u do dis shit? :-\
4. Whats your preferred Etizolam ingestion method? :-\
5. Whats your preferred Benzo consumption when it comes in pill form? :-\
EDIT: RisiR
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I'm about to lose my shit here.
I'll take some pyrazolam now and then I'll burn this whole shithole down to the ground. I want to get fucking wasted....
:'(
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1. Whats your top 3 benzos out of them all :-\
2. Diclazepam vs. Diazepam :-\
3. Half shit says grapefruit potentiates/enlongates half don't I drank some with mine anyway u do dis shit? :-\
4. Whats your preferred Etizolam ingestion method? :-\
5. Whats your preferred Benzo consumption when it comes in pill form? :-\
EDIT: RisiR
Dude, I'll answer your questions and hang out with you when I'm benzo'd enough to not kill myself with punches to my face.
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1. Whats your top 3 benzos out of them all :-\
I don't really have a favorite because I see them as different tools. Pyrazolam acts fast and doesn't fuck me up so it's good for outside and emergencies. Diclaz make me chilled and sleepy. Flubro is spacey and lasts forever so that's nice to get fucked up. I really liked Etizolam but it's illegal in my country now. It had the biggest "I don't give a fuck" effect and made me feel pretty fly for a white guy.
2. Diclazepam vs. Diazepam :-\
I'd have to go with good ol' Valium but probably because it reminds me of better times. Also, it's more euphoric to me.
3. Half shit says grapefruit potentiates/enlongates half don't I drank some with mine anyway u do dis shit? :-\
I don't do that but CYP inhibition should work to potentiate certain benzos.
4. Whats your preferred Etizolam ingestion method? :-\
Take a couple out of the baggy, throw them in the face. Fuck the world.
5. Whats your preferred Benzo consumption when it comes in pill form? :-\
Always a mix between orally and sublingually. The bioavailability is orally very high anyway and some benzos benefit from the metabolisation in the liver so yea
EDIT: RisiR Wazzzzzzzuuuuuupppp??
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I'd just like to say I took 40mg flubro in 24 hours and I was high for fuckin DAYS.
Sounds accurate, lolz.
I'm taking 1mg pyrazolam per hour or so today, so we'll see what that does.
10mg of etizolam yesterday, it did keep anxiety down, had a short sleepy period early on, but I think that 2mg would have been just as effective as 10mg so I'll be testing the etizolam properly at some ploint.
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1. Whats your top 3 benzos out of them all :-\
2. Diclazepam vs. Diazepam :-\
3. Half shit says grapefruit potentiates/enlongates half don't I drank some with mine anyway u do dis shit? :-\
4. Whats your preferred Etizolam ingestion method? :-\
5. Whats your preferred Benzo consumption when it comes in pill form? :-\
EDIT: RisiR
1. Etizolam
2. Xanax
3. Valium
Valium
It being in liquid form in PG
Depends on taste. Xanax, swallow as fast as possible. Tizolam pop it under the tounge. Snort em sometimes if I feel like putting something up my nose to feel cool
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I'd just like to say I took 40mg flubro in 24 hours and I was high for fuckin DAYS.
Dear god man. Drugs with such potency and long half-lives sound horrifying considering the kind of knuckleheads that are bound to fuck up.
The things you could do with them, though. If you drugged someone, they could be screwed for days at the very least. Doctors would have a hard time figuring out what had caused it until a drug test was given, and even then they may decide to just wait it out: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benzodiazepine_overdose
Imagine giving a functional dose to a meth addict with a violent/criminal history. You could set off one man rampages.
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Casually sitting down, phenazepam and "balt salts" at train, I can see somebody getting a load of this stuff and blacking out for a month, smuggling them into prison up their ass, like that classic Erowid tale of Klonopin where the guys had their girlfriends whore them selves out of the side of the street for coke.
Then again. Phenazepam is usually powder form, flubromazepam (mine are pellets, small pills.)
Took 8mg of flubromazepam this morning and that's going to be my next benzo experiment.
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benzos are for gay whores
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Hmm, prison. I wonder if we'll get cases where people prefer to be zombied out and have the months fly by. I'd like to see a national geographic segment on that, containing a dramatic overdose. "The Men Who Became Zombies"